Posted on 05/02/2015 8:24:12 AM PDT by lowbridge
The evolving narrative in Baltimore received a new wrinkle today when all 6 officers involved in the death of Freddie Gray were arrested and charged, to varying degrees, with murder.
The driver of the police van in which Gray sustained the injuries that ultimately led to his death faces the most jail-time, however.
Caesar Goodson is being charged with “second-degree ‘depraved heart murder.” He is the only officer involved in the incident to receive the charge.
However, a source close to the Goodson family has said that the officer repeatedly insisted that his fellow officers in the van restrain Gray—pleas that went unheeded.
This, ultimately, led to Gray’s death; medical examiners recently announced that he died from head injuries suffered while in transit. Prisoners are supposed to be restrained in order to protect against unnecessary rattling which, as in this case, can lead to serious injury.
The unnamed source and friend of the Goodson family spoke to Daily Mail UK:
“When he became irate Caesar called in and said ‘you have got to restrain him.’ That’s on the audio,” he said.
“They did, they restrained his legs. But when they did that they still should have put him in the seat belt.”
(Excerpt) Read more at ijreview.com ...
There were two links yesterday to people seriously injured when Baltimore police took them on “nickel rides”. Very large amount of $$$$ awarded I’ve been checking Google but haven’t been able to find it today
Indeed you do, and that is what he apparently did.
I am conversing with a person who said that the van driver should have taken it upon himself to restrain Gray, which does not seem like anything a van driver should do.
And what if gray in fact prevented himself from being restrained via hostile behavior?
This one, talks about the police use of force in general.
That was on Greta. The police officer who reported that also said it was a technique used by snitches. And indicated that Grey may have been a snitch - which gives motive to drug gang
Maybe.
Maybe they should have driven him to the hospital, although the outcome of doing that may well have been the same as it was driving him to jail.
It is also possible that he was not injured at the time he was asking for medical help, so the cops didn’t call for it, and he injured himself later in the van.
It seems to me that call hinges on exactly when his injuries occurred, and since the State Attorney has that information, she can tell us if he was asking for medical help prior to being injured or after being injured, because to tell you the truth, I don’t know.
That is difficult though. These people need their income, they have bills to pay. taking such an action could result in their being fired.
Personally, I don’t see how a person becomes a policeman at this point. You expect that people in higher positions of authority will act prudently as opposed to feeding you to a mob of lunatics.
That didn’t happen here. This is bad, and it has the potential to get much worse.
agreed.... after hearing the incognito cop on Fox last night... I would like to wait and see the toxicology reports.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1
Paralyzed from head down.
A lawsui in progress from 2012
Wish we knew the officers and precincts involved
Likely to cause death, and a remote possibility of causing serious injury are two different things. Besides, there is no evidence yet that this was a nickel ride.
Here's one, from Fox News. Sorry, I'm having trouble hot-linking it (lost my HTML cheat sheet):
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/24/baltimore-police-prisoner-transport-under-scrutiny-after-past-death-possible
Yes it is difficult. More difficult is doing your job, making an error and finding yourself arrested on felony charges.
Interesting article, it seems like a problem that they could fix.
“At least five other people or their families have alleged they were harmed in the back of a police van since 1997, with several winning judgments or settling with police. Three were paralyzed by the ride, according to a recent review by The Baltimore Sun.
In one case, a 43-year-old plumber arrested for public urination was handcuffed and put in a van in good health but emerged a quadriplegic. He told his doctor he was not buckled into his seat and after a sharp turn he was “violently thrown around the back of the vehicle as [police officers] drove in an aggressive fashion,” according to a lawsuit.
The man died two weeks later of pneumonia caused by his paralysis, and his family initially won a $7.4 million award after a jury agreed three officers were negligent. It was reduced to $219,000 by Maryland’s Court of Special Appeals because state law caps such payouts.”
Interesting article.
“It is police policy that all arrestees must be buckled in during transport. The policy, updated just nine days before Freddie Gray was injured, states “all passengers, regardless of age and location, shall be restrained by seat belts or other authorized restraining devices.””
the Freddie grey case is over for now until the verdict comes out- but you watch the news channels milk this story for every last nickel they can-
There is nothing more to be said about this case other than 6 officers have been arrested, some falsely, perhaps all falsely, but that awaits to be seen- some of the people who are animals/thugs in Baltimore will continue to riot, loot, perhaps even murder-, and the police force has been severely restricted as to how it conducts itself from here till the trial=- putting their lives at risk
There’s really nothing more to say about the whole thing until the trial is under way- A Black man was killed, we don’t know how, the black community has rushed to judgment- falsely accusing some, perhaps all of the officers involved, the main stream media continues ot put out false reports about the facts of the case, thugs in Baltimore will continue their destructive criminal acts, police will continue to stand down- the trial will happen... then who knows
“Wait till an all black, jury of peers, starts picking guilt and innocence based on color, begins.”
OJ trial, anyone? Not all black but certainly found innocent based on race.
“Also, why can they charge for murder AND manslaughter when only one guy died?”
Gives the jury a lesser charge to convict on if they don’t think the greater charge is right. Also gives the DA charges to drop to get the defendant to plead guilty to a lesser charge. All in the game.
The vast majority of blacks in Baltimore have not been involved in the rioting. Yet has a single moderate black leader or minister in the entire city been willing to come forward and lead a movement for peace and civic order?
No — for the same reason that no moderate Muslim leaders or imams have come forward to lead peace movements against the murderous jihadists destroying Arab cities. It’s too dangerous to oppose violent, destructive madmen.
So what is the future for Baltimore and other American cities except the same fate as Iraqi cities and Syrian cities are experiencing, where the bad guys are free to rampage to their hearts’ content while the good guys have no choice but to escape with their families into refugee camps?
It seems to me they should only be able to make one charge. They should have to look at the case carefully and make the charge that fits. I understand when the charge is completely different, but the whole just-in-case-backup charges seem unfair. It is not both. They can’t actually be convicted of both second degree murder and manslaughter can they? If not, it should read OR.
Also what of the ones who are charged with 2 counts of manslaughter when only one guy died? Maybe I am remembering it wrong, but I think a couple of them were charged with 2 counts.
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