Posted on 05/13/2015 1:55:04 PM PDT by Enlightened1
I was responding to his comment here:
I’d love to see a fourteen day walkout by police nation-wide.
Turn every prisoner loose that is in their holding cells.
See what takes place.
...with my belief that the result would, to put it briefly, be something other than he seems to hope it would be.
I do advocate for self-policing in the absence of police, including their institutional absence, nonfeasance or malfeasance.
As for
More and more crime becomes penalty free.
...I am a great believer that there are too many laws, especially malum prohibitum; too many acts which have been raised to the status of "felony"; and documentable cases of acts which should be Constitutionally protected being prosecuted as crimes. My personally preferred legal code (had I the power to enact it) would be much shorter, simpler, and with a combination of greater permissiveness of freedom of action and more severe penalties for breaking the few laws that remain.
And there's your word salad for the day :)
Sorry :(
I believe you would consider me in that group. Early on when an incident is revealed I look like I’m in favor of the police no matter what. What’s really going on is that I want all the facts to come out before I pile on.
We had people trashing the police for killing another unarmed person in the Brown incident. I looked like I’d back the police for doing just about anything then.
As the fact became known, I was proven right to hold off and not condemn them.
As for nonsense, I think that is nonsense.
Do you honestly think I or others here back the police for killing someone in anger and vindictiveness? They have to be in fear of the loss of their or another person’s life.
Thank you for your additional comments. I appreciating you coming back to clarify.
These caases of police brutality at some point are going to be met with deadly force from a citizen cops are attempting to beat.
Shooting a cop in self defense would be difficult to prove?
While I do see reason to state that ExGeeEye did not advocate for doing away with the police, there is still an underlying premise that some good community results might come from their absence.
I will have to admit to contemplating bodies hanging from light poles to be troubling. The issue of due process is pertinent here.
There is also the fact that what we see as justice for some hoodlums, would not be the justice they were seeking. It would be just as easy for them to administer their justice too.
We would have waring factions. Many good lives would be lost too.
Would we have safer streets with people taking pot shots at others to achieve justice? We might try to limit our actions to real criminals. Would they? I think it’s crystal clear they would be looking to bag based on a racial basis alone.
So while I think I was incorrect in my assertion and assumption that ExGeeEye did advocate for doing away with the police as stated, I still see some of the same underlying dynamic of such an advocacy with the belief that things would work out better than expected.
I don’t believe that would be the case. There is still the same dynamic at play here. I don’t believe the envisioned good results would be anywhere near good.
Arguably we have that now.
My inner Han Solo says "Bring 'em on! I prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around."
However, at the risk of belaboring a previous point, I just don't see the necessary preconditions coming to pass in the ordinary course of events.
Thanks for your additional comments.
I don’t necessarily disagree about the simmering mess we’re in now. I don’t think things would magically get better.
I don’t see the circumstances coming to fruition for us to test this theory either.
I know, Mrs.Bramps, they should put me in charge.
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