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To: Servant of the Cross; DannyTN
Oh danny boy....

here are some of Huckabee's "clear" statements supporting ('came out swinging') Common Core:

Huckabee, however, has a history of supporting Common Core. As late as August of 2014 he called on conservatives to “stop the fight” over Common Core and, instead, consider the positive effects the nationalized standards might have on students in poorly performing schools.

In June of 2013, Sunshine State News reported that Huckabee “came out swinging…in defense of Common Core Standards in education,” and “sent a letter to lawmakers in Oklahoma, urging them to support Common Core.”

“It’s disturbing to me there have been criticisms of these standards directed by other conservatives including the RNC,” Huckabee wrote to the lawmakers. “The truth of the matter is, these criticisms are short-sighted.”

And yet, Huck's spokesperson has the audacity to say this now ....

Now that he’s a candidate for President, there will be countless efforts to try and misrepresent the Governor’s clearly stated and well-documented position against Common Core. This is just simply another one of those election year lies.

Governor Huckabee believes education is a family function, not a federal function – period. Anyone who says otherwise is either misinformed or not telling the truth.

Huckabee is pissing on the GOP base and telling them it's raining. Don't believe him.

50 posted on 05/15/2015 11:27:52 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
There is a difference in criticizing the standards vs criticizing the federal control of the standards.

Walker has a similar problem due to early support for common core.

I've seen a lot of attacks on the common core math standards and frankly Huckabee is being generous calling the attackers "shortsighted". Stupid and unlearned would be better. Usually the critizers are putting up a math problem they don't understand that's designed to teach a technique they don't understand.

In most cases it's not the standards themselves that are the problem. Most of the standards are just what has been taught for decades. They've just been codified into a national standard that puts the Feds in control and Fed control is bad.

The criticisms that seem to be valid include the following:

  1. We don't want Federal control of our education. That control should be local or state.
  2. I've heard people who claim to be in the know say that the standards are out of order. That advanced math concepts are taught before the basis. Or that the basics have been left out all together. I seriously doubt the basics have been left out, but the order is very important.
  3. Some of the materials in support of the standards is incomplete, flawed, anti-Christian, pro-muslim, revisionist, politically biased or otherwise incorrect. Most of the time, I don't know for sure where these materials are coming from. I don't know if they are something the Fed's published or the local teacher used to promote his/her own bias.

    We've always had to keep a close eye on the materials that get used, and we'll continue to have to do that. But the Fed involvement needs to end.


55 posted on 05/15/2015 12:01:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You jumped threads on me.

This thread is a good example. The very first question in the main article is a problem designed to teach advanced addition principles.

Sure the problem 7+7 should have been learned and probably was learned by memory in the basic addition table. But knowing that you can split an operand and then use the associative property to make the math easier, is important. I use that all the time dealing with much larger numbers.

I’m in the top 1% of the nation in math. But that is a really basic arithmetic principles that should be taught probably in the 2nd or third grade. It worries me when people who can’t even understand the importance of what is being taught in that example are trying to weigh in on the direction of our education.


56 posted on 05/15/2015 12:19:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414399/does-scott-walker-have-common-core-problem-ian-tuttle"

Not only Walker but Jindal did the same thing too.

Initially common core was a state led initiative by the governors. And it had a lot of support. But then the Fed's got involved. And now it's toxic as it should be.

All you've shown is that Huckabee can change positions when he should.

58 posted on 05/15/2015 12:35:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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