Posted on 05/15/2015 10:22:31 AM PDT by thackney
I currently work projects at one of the largest salt cavern storage facilities in the US for Nat Gas and Nat Gas Liquids. So I am likely a little biased in the other direction.
Ping!
The Basics of Underground Natural Gas Storage
http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/analysis_publications/storagebasics/storagebasics.html
Salt caverns provide very high withdrawal and injection rates relative to their working gas capacity. Base gas requirements are relatively low. The large majority of salt cavern storage facilities have been developed in salt dome formations located in the Gulf Coast states. Salt caverns have also been leached from bedded salt formations in Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southwestern states. Cavern construction is more costly than depleted field conversions when measured on the basis of dollars per thousand cubic feet of working gas capacity, but the ability to perform several withdrawal and injection cycles each year reduces the per-unit cost of each thousand cubic feet of gas injected and withdrawn.
Much more info at the link
There are some very sick people out there...
Ha!
But we can burn wood either. What energy shall we use to support the production of goods and services that will provide the funding we need to support solar and wind energy to use for the production of goods and services? See, solar and wind won't sustain themselves financially. We are no longer allowed to use nuclear or hydroelectric energy either.
Simply put, we need fossil fuel energy so that we can earn revenue and pay taxes to pay for Solar and Wind energy.
This circular logic can cause symptoms of stupidity. You've been warned.
I’d be glad to cut off natural gas supplies to New York State, if that’s what would make the residents there happy.
Yep.... ;-)
It bubbles right through it like a ghost, then leaves H2O behind, and creepily disappears into the atmosphere.
Very tricky stuff.
This Josh Fox is clearly a genius.
Yeah, I was right across the street when the Sheriffs hauled these dingalings off for trespassing. These nitwits along with the Socialist / Marxist governor have been preventing New York State from reaping the financial benefits that Pennsylvania has from fracking for years now. One note of humor for me was that the dipsticks being arrested weren't even handcuffed but held their hands behind their backs for the camera to give the impression that they were. The actual FACTS are that this facility will produce virtually ZERO risks and provide enormous financial benefit to the entire region. Leave it to Water Mellon Socialists to screw up a wet dream!
I think Fox has a right to protest but not to block public roads to thru traffic or go on private property.
I gotta wonder if this guy walks to these protests.
Gasland... Isn’t that the liar who faked the flaming hoses?
And from my brief studies natural gas has been NATURALLY seeping in to water tables long before fracking.
BUT of course. We have to surrender our dollars, our futures, and freedom to government officials immediately. It’s all for the children
If there was a physical connection between Lake Seneca and the salt down, the salt dome would be dissolved until the lake reached maximum salt saturation. It would be far saltier than the dead sea.
We use water to create the caverns in the salt dome. Once the water nears salt saturation the water has to be replaced to keep growing them. Handling the fresh and the brine water is a major portion of the operations at the facility I work at.
I agree, but then he wouldn't get the publicity with the news cameras. That is why he does it.
It’s more like a slow seepage from below. The lake is being constantly supplied with fresh water from the runoff from the surrounding hills. There are even numerous water falls leading into it.
“Anti-Fracking Filmmaker Fox Fingered In Finger Lakes Fracas.”
Fixed it. (Sorry, couldn’t resist)
Not from the salt dome itself, or it would look be like the Lake Peigneur incident.
https://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007AM/finalprogram/abstract_131360.htm
Seneca Lake is more saline than the other glacially excavated Finger Lakes (e.g., Cl at 140 ppm vs. 40 ppm). Wing et al. (1995) suggested that Seneca, and to a lesser extent Cayuga Lake, has an additional groundwater source of saline water to compliment typical fluvial sources because they are deep enough to intersect the Silurian beds of commercial grade rock salt located ~450-600 m below the surface.
Mass-balance arguments by Halfman et al. (2006) indicated that sodium is stoichiometrically consistent with chloride. Finally, Jolly (2006) showed that the chloride concentration has not been constant over the past century.
Chloride concentrations were ~40 ppm in 1900, rose to ~170 ppm by the 1960’s, and subsequently decreased since 1980 to the present day concentration of ~120 ppm. Here we focus on the decrease in concentration over the past decade.
...A reduction of road salt use, salt mining activities or closure of salt pathways through the sediment column are the probable causes in the annual scale salinity decrease but more work is required to determine the exact cause.
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