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To: kearnyirish2
It's amazing how the stereotypes hold. I'm of Italian descent and live on Staten Island. The south shore is mostly Italian and Irish with Russians and Albanians coming in fast, and Asians. It is a Great place to live.
The north shore, with Obama’s people, is a disaster. Those same neighborhoods used to be beautiful Irish and Italian neighborhoods. What a shame.
There's still some stereotypes from the last generation out here for both our nationalities :). but very few from this generation. The Irish guys I know, one is an accountant, one’s an engineer, and 2 are police.
The days of Whitey Bulger are gone.
But if you DO want to see a great Irish gangster film, State of Grace was AWESOME :)
30 posted on 05/16/2015 2:30:02 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: dp0622

I’ll check it out if I get a chance; thank you. I think “Jersey Shore” and “The Sopranos” really set back Italians in a negative way with mobster and “guido” stereotypes, and their civic groups (rightfully) railed against them; they didn’t bust their arses for over a century for that. I recall a made-for-TV parody of “Jersey Shore” (Jersey Shore Shark Attack? Think “Sharknado” with Italian characters) that was laughably absurd - when they come upon a blood-spattered boat one thinks it is covered with tomato sauce, which they normally bring with them when they go fishing. IIRC, the “Jersey Shore” cast (who I believe come from NYC/Staten Island) admitted the director had told them to act over-the-top.

There are still plenty of Italians here in north Jersey (including the descendants of those who fled Newark decades ago) and they are completely assimilated; many childhood friends had Italian fathers and Irish mothers. I couldn’t figure that out; it certainly wasn’t for our cooking - who opens an Irish restaurant? Just cook American farm fare and remove all the taste/spices - that is Irish cooking. I hike along the NY/NJ border, and have seen the remains of Lakeville NY, where a lot of Italians worked in iron mines in the early twentieth century; doesn’t fit the stereotype of hoods landing in NYC and delving into the crime world there. Like the Irish, they tolerated the racism and made a better life for the following generations.

When will “Obama’s people” do the same?


32 posted on 05/16/2015 3:00:44 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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