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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Won what war?
We sided with the Shias and ISLAMIC sect over the Sunnis, another ISLAMIC sect.

Is that the team we are on? We’re fighting for the Shia?

Look I just want an honest answer as to why we should support on sect of ISLAM over another.


21 posted on 05/18/2015 9:47:57 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Your questions show that you have little understanding of the situation. In 2006 during the Anbar awakaning we “sided” with the Sunni tribal leaders and ousted the Fedayeen/Al Quada fighters during the surge. The war was won by the time that Obama took office in 2009. In 2011 when it was time to negotiate the renewal of the Status of forces agreement to keep troops in Iraq our Generals recommended that we keep 15,000 troops in Iraq to keep the peace and help stabilize the country. Obama offered Malaki 3,000 troops. The offer was an insult on it’s face. Malaki saw it for what it was, a bogus offer and so he countered with sure and they will be under Iraqi law for the commission of crimes. An offer he knew that Obama could never accept. Obama wanted out, but had to make a weak offer so he could say I tried.

Malaki then allowed the Shiite factions to settle their scores because he needed them for an ally, he no longer had us. Do I have to go on as to how we got here? The Fadayeen/Al Quada faction from 2006 which are just the Baathist military leaders teamed up with the nascent ISIS movement and saw it as a vehicle to take Iraq back. It’s even better for them now because they don’t have to put them or their men on the line as they have murderous, fanatical foreign fighters willing to martyr themselves and do the dirty work for them.

You want to know what team we should be on. We should be on team Iraq as in banding these people together into thinking of themselves as a nation state, not tribal factions. We were on the way to that until the end of 2011. Not all Sunnis are ISIS. For your information, the majority of the people being killed by ISIS are other SUNNIS. Who do you think live in Ramadi? Shia? Who do you think died in Ramadi? Shia?


26 posted on 05/18/2015 10:08:55 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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