[Lorianne]

They were never on their way to a stable country. Not under Clinton, not Bush, not under Obama. Never ever. They were only relatively stable under an sadistic iron-fisted dictator.

Not because of what we have done or haven’t done ... but because of who they are. Read history. Lots and lots of history.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"They were never on their way to a stable country."

Then you have not studied all of the analysis after 2009. They were all unanimus on one thing, Iraq was on it's way to stability.