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Were We Right to Take Out Saddam?
National Review ^ | 05/19/2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/19/2015 7:41:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 05/19/2015 7:58:08 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Probable Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush got himself into trouble by sort of, sort of not, answering the question whether he would have supported going into Iraq in 2003

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; saddam; saddamhussein; waronterror
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To: SeekAndFind

This one is definitely a ‘keeper’.

Thanks for the article, Dr. Hanson. (And SeekAndFind)


41 posted on 05/19/2015 8:51:57 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes we were right to take him out, the problem was we didn't take out Islam out of their Constitution .....when a Constitution states..
“NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM”....in reality that constitution is then superseded by the Koran.
42 posted on 05/19/2015 8:52:16 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To all of the “know it all’s”...

Please tell me exactly what the alternate consequences would have happened if we’d *not* taken out Saddam?

Remember, he DID have WMD’s. The Oil For Food program WAS corrupt and falling apart. He DID have hundreds of tons of yellowcake. He WAS waiting to restart these programs at the drop of a hat. He WAS the biggest sponsor of terrorism. He HAD used WMD’s in the past.

To say we shouldn’t have done this “knowing what we know now” is quite arrogant, it also requires buying into media lies and revisionist history.

He’s one alternate version:

We don’t get involved in Iraq. Oil for Food ends. U.N. weapons inspections never resume. Saddam restarts all WMD programs; nuclear, biological and chemical. Within ten years he’s more dangerous than ever. He’s trained 1000’s of terrorists. He gives them the means to attack the world. Hundreds of thousands are killed, if not more. ...the same people saying “we shouldn’t have gone in” will instead be saying the opposite.


43 posted on 05/19/2015 8:53:40 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

Don’t forget Salmon Pak and the buried jets. And the buried WMDs.


44 posted on 05/19/2015 8:55:03 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: xzins

I’m reading an excellent book about Operation Paperclip at the moment, and it covers IG Farben’s invention of the chemical weapon called Tabun.

One drop on exposed skin, and you are done in seconds. That was back in the late 30’s to mid 40’s.

It was a big deal, and it wasn’t just us saying Saddam was manufacturing this kind of stuff. In fact, just about a couple of months ago, our forces found a stash of NBC stuff in a bunker somewhere. I read about it on this forum.


45 posted on 05/19/2015 8:56:17 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: All

Another thing this article has demonstrated is Americans’ attitude towards war/conflict has changed A LOT !!! Since WWII. And granted, that was a looooong time ago.

Not just the fingers-in-the-wind politicians trying to amass their personal fortunes. Steadfastness and Leadership are completely missing from today’s crop.


46 posted on 05/19/2015 8:59:34 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Grampa Dave

If we changed the insane Nazi Germany and the equally insane Tojo Japan, we could do the same to moslum countries, except we don’t have the willpower we did in WW2. We don’t teach our youth that America IS exceptional, and why it is.

And thus, we elect Carter, Clinton and Obama.


47 posted on 05/19/2015 9:00:37 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, it was right. He and his sadistic sons Uday and Quesay.

These guyz were torturing folks for fun. Some of the most horrendous acts ever committed against another human being was taking place in Iraq. For this reason alone, we sent them to their father...satan.

Good grief, chopping off heads and leaving them on the doorsteps of the families to intimidate. Pushing bound men off of rooftops to watch the terror in their faces. Executing men, making them pull the pin on grenades and filming them blown apart. Dismemberment's, rapes, electrocutions and so forth.

It was reported that one of the sons would play the videos in his private movie theater over and over again. Sick sick sick men.

48 posted on 05/19/2015 9:08:20 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: FreedomPoster

And stamping out Islam.
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yep..... the root of the problem.


49 posted on 05/19/2015 9:10:15 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, the 9-11 terrorists were trained at Salmon Pak.


50 posted on 05/19/2015 9:16:20 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Salman, rather.
51 posted on 05/19/2015 9:21:42 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: SeekAndFind
All this Bush retrospect stuff now, 12 years after the fact, is nothing more than smoke designed to shield Obama from any discussion at all about his own strategy (or lack thereof) for the past six years.

Time didn't stop when Obama took office, and he does bear responsibility for his actions while in office. The Dems are making every effort to get us all debating GWB all over again so we can protect Obama from having to face any scrutiny for anything.

The GOP is totally handing this election to Hillary by entertaining the "knowing what you know now..." questions and making this election about GWB. They should be responding with something like "Had I known that Obama would mismanage the situation so badly, I would have..." instead.

52 posted on 05/19/2015 9:22:24 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: RinaseaofDs

I totally agree with you.


53 posted on 05/19/2015 9:31:23 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I like what someone else said in another thread. If a reporter asks a GOP candidate the question “knowing what you know now would you go into Iraq?” The answer should be “If I knew that a democratic President would betray the American people and pull all of the troops out to allow the enemy to re-take the lands which American blood won, then no I would not go into Iraq.”

Wonderful!

54 posted on 05/19/2015 9:34:16 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Taking out Saddam Hussein was the correct thing to do.

Electing Obama was the wrong thing to do.


55 posted on 05/19/2015 9:48:00 AM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: servantboy777
He and his sadistic sons Uday and Quesay.

Putting the al-Saud family being turned over to Uday and Qusay on pay-per-view would have been quite lucrative.

56 posted on 05/19/2015 9:48:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: xzins
Yes, and we know he met with Al Queda and helped plan the insurgency knowing his time in office was pretty much coming to an end soon.

We kept Al Queda busy in Iraq and killed large numbers of them, which kept America safer.

57 posted on 05/19/2015 10:16:39 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a word... Yes.


58 posted on 05/19/2015 10:21:51 AM PDT by Cliff Dweller (No such thing as a threat... just targets)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well you can argue whether we should have taken out So Damn Insane. I was not a big fan of the invasion. But IMO what the real mistake was was annihilating his entire military. We killed all the real warriors. We should have gotten rid of So Damn and then purged the bad apples out of the officer hierarchy and left the army in place.


59 posted on 05/19/2015 10:27:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: xzins
Why does everyone analyze this so incorrectly? It isn’t that he had stockpiles of WMDs (although he did). It is that he could (and did) produce lethal chemical and biological agents. Period. That’s it.

I don't even have to take it that far:

It was going to be a whole lot easier to fight the coming war in a sandbox than in the unforgiving mountains of Afghanistan... So pick the nearest ***hole with a sandbox...

And I am ok with that.

60 posted on 05/19/2015 10:41:27 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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