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To: Democrat_media; SunkenCiv; caww; BeauBo; All

The left wing of the Dem party has been against the TTP for some time and urging their supporters to lobby Congress against it.


10 posted on 05/21/2015 9:37:46 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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This trade deal includes “Trade in Services”. that means Barack Obama can let into the USA an unlimited number of workers from Mexico and Somalia and any foreign country( as this fast track allows him to make further treaties and override U.S. laws.

The people can’t read these fast track trade treaties

And they override U.S. laws

So basically the Senate voted to give Obama fast track power to overide any U.S. law

This TTP/TPA Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.It’s disguised as “free trade” What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration

http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233


12 posted on 05/21/2015 9:39:26 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: gleeaikin; All

Eliminates the restrictions on “Trade in services” . This means unlimited immigration from the 3rd world into the USA

This TTP/TPA Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.It’s disguised as “free trade” What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration

There are what around 4 billion people in the 3rd world wanting to move to the USA


13 posted on 05/21/2015 9:41:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: gleeaikin; All

This bill gives Obama much more power. Who would give more power to this anti-American marxist enemy of freeedom named Obama?

It’s treason and utter stupidity to empower this communist monster Obama

so now conservatives are for a dictatorship?


14 posted on 05/21/2015 9:44:17 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: gleeaikin; Democrat_media
"The left wing of the Dem party has been against the TTP for some time"

There is a better way to describe it.

All FTA's have protections for the Investors and protections for labor, enviros, and social welfare.

The premise for the investor protections is that in an Investor-State trade agreement(FTA), the state, unable to raise taxes on the investor, will utilize regulations. In which case, regulations are actually taxes masquerading as regulations. So, the investors have to be protected from this and in NAFTA, the investor protections were found in Chapter 11.

When FTA disputes arise, they are not settled in the courts. Instead, they are settled by the Arbitration Panel, and a nation's courts have to honor the Arbitration Panel's decision. This is why it is often said that FTA's trump US law(regulations).

Which is why the left(union/labor, enviros, social welfare) will often oppose FTAs. They say the Investor Protections are stacked against them.

And this was a big issue in NAFTA. NAFTA was negotiated secretly and Congress could not change it. Congress could only vote up or down. But many in Congress(mostly dems) thought protections for labor, enviro, and welfare were lacking so they all agreed that the incoming prez, Bill Clinton, would negotiate(with Canada and Mexico) a parallel agreement that contained protections for the left. But Clinton's parallel agreement turned out to be toothless and many on the left accused Clinton of being in cahoots with the GOP. Now they are accusing Obama of being in cahoots with the GOP.

Since NAFTA, we have had CAFTA, Chile, Panama, Columbia, and Korea, all negotiated by GW Bush. And Bush was transparent in his negotiations, letting Congress know the details. But the dems refused to OK Panama, Columbia, and Korea. Obama renegotiated those 3 FTAs and Congress approved them.

There is a bigger picture here.

We call them Free Trade Agreements because they eliminate or harmonize tariffs but they are actually Investor-State Trade Agreements. And since the Arbitration Panels settle the disputes, the Arbitration Panel is establishing law by precedents. And this is called Investor State Law. And as time goes by, and more trade agreements are established, the body of Investor State Law grows, and is housed at the WTO.

Eventually, the body of Investor State Law grows until it reaches critical mass, and the regulatory law of individual nations become irrelevant, because they are all trumped by Investor State Law. Which means the Trans Nationals become the govt.

To know more about this, do a google search of Investor State Law and/or Investor State Trade Agreement.

35 posted on 05/22/2015 5:08:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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