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To: WTFOVR
Pre-9/11 ... Yes, back when the Constitution and Bill of Rights still held at least the illusion of being followed ...

I wasn't aware collecting telephone information that is not viewed but by a court order is destroying the bill of rights. If you have a problem with some aspects of the Patriot Act and other bills, then fix them. You don't scrap the whole thing and forbid law enforcement the tools they need to keep tabs on terrorists. Terrorists are not protected by the Constitution.

58 posted on 05/23/2015 3:47:56 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We have a process in place for such - it’s called a damn search warrant, issued under probable cause, by oath or affirmation, before a PUBLIC magistrate ... Not a g-d “shall-issue for any cockamamie reason, no-holds barred, get whatever you want open ended fishing expedition” issued by a secret judge operating in a secret court. The pre 9/11 problem was the “wall of separation,” set up by Clinton operatives, to prevent the various agencies from sharing information - and some “my turf” ego BS by certain officers within those organizations ...

Moreover we had a spineless philandering predatory sociopath for a president, aka William J. Clinton, who - when handed OBL on a platter - had neither the integrity, the political will, nor the intestinal fortitude to exterminate the Muzzy SOB.

So, please spare me your ignorant bull crap.


59 posted on 05/23/2015 4:06:19 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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