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To: MHGinTN
LOL, Golden Hueys evacuating people from the roofs of their survival bunkers is nowhere in Scripture in spite of what a wonderful diabolical cash cow it is for the Protestant and Protestant derived crowd.

Twist a portion of a verse here, take another out of context there, and bingo, Protestants can come up with anything from Christ allowing sodomy to Christ surrendering to Satan, then "prove" their fantasy well enough to keep their Self and Self Alone delusion going.

Besides, were there any such surrender of Christ to Satan followed by a mass evacuation of those Christ said would suffer for Him (i.e. Christ contradicting Scripture by evacuating His sheep), those who accept without qualms mass infanticide with "contraceptives" and deny the power of the Holy Spirit by throwing out part of the Old Testament in the garbage sure wouldn't be the people who were evacuated.

Protestant deceived "Christians" ignoring and rationalizing the slaughter of Christians who are Catholic, as they're doing right now with the mass slaughter going on in the ME, is what will be happening more and more often. All the while, the Protestant and Protestant derived "Christians" will go on about their lives just like the unjust did in the days of Noah.

The "six finger" crowd are a barrel of laughs, especially when they're yelling the same lies about the Catholic Church that the Romans yelled about the early Christians they slaughtered. Meanwhile, those deceived by the diabolical delusion of Protestant doctrine are so blind they ignore the anti-Christ rising in Constantinople, that other Roman city on seven hills.

36 posted on 05/27/2015 7:26:21 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin; smvoice; Mark17; Springfield Reformer; CynicalBear; redleghunter; Iscool; Alamo-Girl
Quite telling that you denigrate the Rapture of the Church into golden hueys evacuating believers. Your lack of comprehension as to the reality of the event spurs mocking. That's actually good because you are not luke warm when you make such cold, dead mockings.

Lets take a look at the coming event ...

John 14 Jesus tells the disciples that He is going to prepare a place for them and that He will come to take them there to be with Him THERE, not here, There. Jesus gives clues as to this happening by comparing the scene to bridesmaids awaiting the bridegroom, and calling the Church the Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ (the two shall be one, and not in a sexual sense a spiritual sense blessing a human marriage) through Paul's letters. Then in 1st Thess 4 Paul describes the departing, when Jesus comes in the air to gather away His bride to be with Him in His Father's House, where the bema seat judgments happen prior to returning tot set foot on Earth again, eventually splitting the Mount of Olives from the top down.

For many centuries now the Catholics have taken the term 'apostasia' to mean a departing from Mother Church as in following heresies, while the Protestants have taken apostasia to mean revolting against the apostasy of Catholiciism. The use of the word as written in the day the Pauline letters were written indicates the true meaning is connected to what followed immediately in Pauls letter and the purpose of the letter.

μή τις ὑμᾶς ἐξαπατήσῃ κατὰ μηδένα τρόπον· ὅτι ἐὰν μὴ ἔλθῃ ἡ ἀποστασία πρῶτον καὶ ἀποκαλυφθῇ ὁ ἄνθρωπος τῆς ἁμαρτίας, ὁ υἱὸς τῆς ἀπωλείας,

ἀποστασία is the Greek word we will focus upon for deeper meaning. The context in 2Thess2:3 is the 'departing', the falling away, the apostasy, the rebellion, as translated differently in ages of church disputations. But the use in Paul's day is revealed by the text and to what he is writing the letter to accomplish, namely a comforting that the Great Tribulation has not happened yet.

Here is the English, with the Pauline meaning, starting at verse one of 2Thess2:

"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the DEPARTINGoccurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

Notice how taking apostasia to mean 'apostasy against the Gospel' or 'rebellion against mother church' would make the passage say something out of context to the previous two sentences and what followed? Paul is once again attempting to reassure people who had been led into believing that the coming of the Son had already happened.

At this point you may be insisting in your soul that this is my 'private' interpretation, and not sanctioned by Mother Church. GOOD! You are seeing the essence of why I'm doing this! I want to open your eyes to the truth of what the Word of God reveals. Unless the indwelling Holy Spirit is taken out of the way, the restrainer removed, the man of sin cannot be 'unrestrained' and saunter upon the scene! The Rapture of Jesus' Church, His Body is how He intends to do this removing of the restrainer. And you may be sure that the great lie satan will feed the 'left behinds' will align in some lying fashion with this departing, which has been mistranslated for so long now.

Are you insisting that to come in the clouds is the same as stepping upon the Earth? Well then, how do you explain Jesus appearing to Saul on the road to Damascus, and Steven seeing the Lord standing at the right Hand of The Lord God Almighty? Jesus need not set foot on Earth to call away His Bride. It is a supernatural event, occurring in the twinkling of an eye. That twinkling can now be measured, as the time interval necessary for a photon traveling at 186,000 miles per second to pass from one side of the cornea to the other, a time span pressing the Planck limit of time, 10-43 second.

The transformation of those here on Earth will be truly so fast that the trasntion will not register in consciousness before the believer is gone from their body of 4D reality. John says that when He appears we will see Him as He is BECAUSE we will be like Him. To see a being greater than 4D is impossble for a being who is only 4D. The scene in Daniel 5 shows that clearly,a s the being of greater dimensional reality had to 'reach down' into Belshazzar's 4D realm for the King to see the fingers writing ont he wall. The body remained in a greater dimensional setting while the hand reached into Belshazzar's realm.

Jesus proved the concept when He left the rock tomb without rolling away the stone, when He appear in a locked and shuttered room without using a door or window, when He appeared ont he road to two disciples then disappeared when He blessed the supper and broke it for their consumption.

There are numerous scenes given in Scriptures (see Elisha and his student surrounded as offered in 2Kings6:15-17, etc) which display the reality of a multi-dimensional Universe all around us which we cannot sense because we are 4D beings still. At the Rapture, believers dead and alive will be made into greater dimensional beings, so we will see Him as He really IS AS WE ARE TAKEN into the clouds to meet the Lord IN THE AIR. The lie perhaps reinforced by Rome, will be a doozy to explain that event! Don't be here when that deception arrives.

37 posted on 05/27/2015 9:58:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Rashputin; MHGinTN
LOL, Golden Hueys evacuating people from the roofs of their survival bunkers is nowhere in Scripture in spite of what a wonderful diabolical cash cow it is for the Protestant and Protestant derived crowd.

Where does the Bible say 'evacuate.' Good generals do marshall their troops before a final assault. In Revelation 19 we do see Jesus Christ doing such before His second coming. The same chapter also shows His 'troops' coming with Him. They get there somehow. And Christ feeds them and celebrates with them before the assault---Second Coming. So beyond that is speculation.

Revelation 19:

Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

9 Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Marshall the troops, feed them, equip them for battle. Good generals do that. Of course I will await the Roman Catholic infallible teaching on these verses if you would like to share.

39 posted on 05/27/2015 11:58:35 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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