Posted on 05/27/2015 8:02:37 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
“For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled”
I think this is directly applicable to the Duggars. They exalted themselves.
This guy Duggar has what could eventually be his own Warren Jeffs-style commune except everyone is related!
Great.
Joshn is not a hypocrite.
Just a run of the mill child molester.
Does the author feel better now?
He's a pedophile and into incest. That's two huge character flaws in my book.
And for those who want to say "well, nobody's perfect" .... stuff it.
Good grief, did you even read the article?
Yep, the highest authority to which they can turn is their own mind.
This is being treated on the level of brute, raw politics and that is why the unbelieving world is so gleeful.
It isn’t seeing Christ, or even evangelistic efforts. If it did, the discussion could be moved onto a different level, to a God who never excuses but will always forgive, as well to a universally guilty and needy mankind.
This world can only see what looks like a political pressure group trying to force certain governing practices that it does not want. And so morally discrediting the group looks attractive.
In my humble, or proud, or somewhere in between, opinion of course.
How about YOU’RE not perfect?
So while Josh Duggar may be a hypocrite who needs to face up to the consequences of his actions, the radical “freethinker” community is really the last group of people who have any business pointing it out.
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Mega-dittoes. Not only is this true, but ANY godless liberal Hollywood type who is using the Duggar story as a “gotcha” moment to slam Christianity.
In fact I did. Feel better now?
It’s 1500 words of obfuscation, of turning the issue into one where the critics are not qualified to criticize.
No sale. One need not possess qualifications to criticize a child molester. Even if one is an atheist.
The point is where should the bashfest end and why.
"We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual and...deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose...Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality...we must do it for the children's sake."
Perhaps you missed this quote:
“We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual and...deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose...Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality...we must do it for the children’s sake.”
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Um, that’s a quote taken from a gay magazine (and quoted in the body of the article as such). You, however, are attempting to show it as an atheist talking point.
Nice try.
There’s a difference, you know.
Exactly. And, by the argument presented in the article, if it didn’t happen say in the bible not to do it, it would be perfectly fine to molest children. Which is to say, they would be all for molesting children except the bible told them not to.
Of course atheists consider the sexual abuse of children to be wrong because it is injurious to the children and they are not of an age to consent.
...begs the question: are there NO atheist pedophiles?
Answer: of course there are. And as such, my quote from the article remains apropos.
The problem is that your assertion was over-broad; pedophiles come in all shapes and creeds - some are even atheists...
Not at all. The point is, outside of the Bible or other commonly respected religious texts on the subject, attempts to define molestation end up simply being majority rule. We see the same problem with abortion. Some see it as evil, some see it as necessary.
The bottom line is that secular attempts to define right and wrong are always fluid, they change.
If you ask the guys at NAMBLA, they would argue that we (you!) don't have the right to deny children their sexual pleasure. And why should you get to make that choice? Just because you think it's yucky?
Without a Higher Standard, there is essentially NO standard, simply local practice, whim, and in the end, mob-rule.
WHO CARES what religion or lack thereof a person follows when he commits a crime? Hypocrisy is not a crime; destroying a child’s life by betraying her trust and using her body to achieve sexual pleasure IS A TERRIBLE LIFE DESTROYING CRIME.
Their religion is a non sequitur at that point.
Of course atheists consider the sexual abuse of children to be wrong because it is injurious to the children and they are not of an age to consent.
...begs the question: are there NO atheist pedophiles?
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I can't tale credit for 9yearlurkers comment - with which I agree, though - despite your rather odd take on it. I read the comment a bit simpler - atheists are like the 99.9% when it comes to abhorring sexual child abuse - as the act cannot by definition be consensual.
I don’t get the point to there having to be NO atheist child sexual abusers, either.
Of course atheists consider the sexual abuse of children to be wrong because it is injurious to the children and they are not of an age to consent.
My response was to simply point out that you don't speak for ALL atheists - anymore that I can speak for all non-atheists. IOW - child molesters can be found in any group.
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