Posted on 05/30/2015 1:33:40 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
New details about the hurried withdrawal of Russian Special Forces troops from the 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade, military unit 21208 from Tolyatti, became available from the Ukrainian counter-espionage office, and information leaked in specialized forums.
After the capture on May 16, 2015, in Luhansk Oblast of two Russian Spetsnaz troops, Captain Erofeev and Sergeant Aleksandrov, their unit was immediately withdrawn from a temporary base in occupied territory and hastily transferred from Millerovo airfield in Rostov Oblast to their home base in the Russian city of Tolyatti.
PREVIOUSLY, it was assumed that such a HASTY withdrawal happened because of the disclosure of information on the size, location, and mission of the Russian reconnaissance unit, BUT THE REAL REASONS were much more serious. A former serviceman of the 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade, close to military personnel of the brigade, told the story on condition of anonymity.
After detailed analysis and verification of the information, we decided to make it public.
The details of failure, or the threat of rebellion
Upon arrival at home base, the troops returning from the “Ukrainian assignment” were quartered in separate barracks. Almost all cell phones and other electronic gadgets were taken from them. All attempts were taken to ISOLATE them and PREVENT ANY CONTACT with their comrades, family, and friends. On the same day, a group of representatives from the Russian Defense Ministry and people in plain clothes arrived in Tolyatti.
A WAVE OF DISCONTENT AND INDIGNATION arose among enlisted personnel and junior commissioned officers due to the fact that the State, in particular, THE COMMAND of the Defense Ministry, gave up on their comrades. The greatest OUTRAGE WAS PROVOKED BY THE STATEMENT that the captured in Ukraine servicemen were supposedly DISCHARGED before their assignment, and a CAMPAIGN TO DISCREDIT THEM by the Russian government began, involving members of their families.
The command of the brigade and high-ranking officials from General Staff became very concerned with the low level of morale and dissension among the brigade’s personnel. Immediately, identification of the disgruntled and disillusioned began. The RUMORS of a possible disbandment of the unit, in which the captured soldiers served, spread quickly.
The growing discontent among soldiers and junior officers forced the command to voice another, milder version of the future of the unit. The remaining personnel of the failed group will be dispersed among other units of the brigade. Those who wish to leave military service will be given that opportunity under certain conditions, such as SIGNING A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT and a TEMPPORARY BAN ON TRAVEL abroad.
“Sanctions” are also expected against commanders who led the reconnaissance and diversionary units and groups during the assignment. At the very least, they may be transferred to other, less prestigious locations; and in the worst case scenario, they can be eliminated, depending on further developments.
Most of the soldiers of the brigade, in spite of their discontent, realize that they are powerless before their command and will not be able to assert their rights, since according to the official version of the Russian Federation, they have not been in Ukraine (although there are orders to send them on the mission to Ukraine with their names listed in the Brigade headquarters). They also realize that they followed illegal orders being in the territory of another sovereign state illegally.
See also: [EN, DE, FR, ES, IT, PL subs] Commander of the intelligence group, Captain Eugene Erofeev
See also: [EN, DE, FR, ES, IT, PL subs] Alexander Alexandrov, sergeant of contract service of the Russian armed forces
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hoover.org/research/putins-russia-stalin-lite
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."
Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-using-mobile-crematoriums-in-ukraine-2015-5#ixzz3bGkR5QQ3
That is the most bizarre thing I’ve heard in a while. Leave it to the Russkies.
Unless.
They really can perfect those Terminator Robots.
They are like the original American patriots fighting against all odds. Pray for Ukraine
Just GOOGLE ‘Mobile Crematoriums’: The Russian crematorium info is being carried on CNN, Liveleak, Washington Times etc.
Want to know something REALLY bizarre... Facebook has made me verify myself twice in the last 5 minutes!!!!
Apparently, I have ticked off someone! I do receive reports & tweets from Ukraine so I’m under someone’s radar
dats' what I'm sayin', right there...
“That is the most bizarre thing I’ve heard in a while.”
Little wonder, given that that “Ukrainformnapalm”, is a Kiev PROPAGANDA BLOG...
This same source claimed just before the Battle of Debaltsevo that the “Rebels were looking to surrender” and end the war.
This poster has been spamming Kiev propaganda, ALL FRIKKEN DAY. For those paying attention, this coincides with a big spike in Kiev propaganda from other sources in the last week or so.
On Twitter, a LOT of Kiev troll accounts have suddenly gone active, after being quiet for the last several months. And it’s happening on other sites, as well as Twitter.
Now, you KNOW that is not true! I have equally posted articles from Ukraine U.K. & U.S. You just can’t dispute so you attempt to discredit info by slandering me. However, youe antics are well known at Free Republic.
Spetznatz is Russian for infantry.
A Russian Rebel leader was also assassinated in the past 10 days. It looks like the assassination happened within the Rebels.
http://www.rferl.org/content/assassination-of-rebel-commander-in-ukraine/27035485.html
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