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To: Georgia Girl 2
He’s not saying the govt can’t get a warrant to look at an individual’s phone records and neither am I. What they have no business doing is collecting the phone records of every person in the United States on a daily basis. If the NSA thinks you are a terror threat they can go to a judge just like the cops and get a warrant to tap your phone.

Which they do, since none of your records can even be looked at except by a warrant.

This secret FISC court is total BS.

No it's not, it's common sense if you're dealing with a terrorist organization. Warrants are given but you are not made aware of them right away for the same reason that was already the law when dealing with organized crime-- because it doesn't help to alert the organization that they are being investigated.

17 posted on 05/31/2015 9:36:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Which they do, since none of your records can even be looked at except by a warrant.”

You are kidding right? You haven’t been clued in that NSA workers have already been caught spying on their significant others I guess.

No matter the 4th amendment was designed to protect us from this type of surveillance. Nobody needs to be collecting and storing the phone and email records of every citizen in the USA. If you believe that or if you believe the govt has the right to do it then you are part of the problem.

Do you not get that secret courts and big eye in the sky surveillance are the very antithesis of freedom?

Not one single terror threat has been detected or avoided by all of this unnecessary surveillance of American citizens. Just as not one singe terror threat has ever been detected by the unnecessary and unconstitutional TSA groping at the airports. This kind of stuff is never ever for the good of the citizen. Only suckers buy into it and there are millions of them in this country.

Even if all this fascist control and spying did make us safer it is still wrong. Free societies by their very nature are vulnerable. Its something you have to live with.


46 posted on 06/01/2015 7:39:34 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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