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To: cripplecreek

Where is the public copy of the bill?

If you can’t find it, then this is a back room deal, and we’re being asked to trust.

Well...I DON’T trust them.


73 posted on 06/12/2015 6:11:17 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Passing TPA doesn't just empower Obama, it empowers the democrats down the road the first time they regain a simple majority in both houses rather than a two thirds majority.

I remember when some people said reconciliation couldn't possibly be used to pass BarryCare because that's not how it's supposed to work. Weeks later, reconciliation was used to pass BarryCare and to Hell with "how it was supposed to work". The Majority can interpret these things as giving whatever power they want something like TPA to give them if the stakes are high enough.

Not only is the damage TPA can do next week when with TPA passed it would be possible to pass TPP without any amendments and with a simple majority, the damage from passing TPA is also how the next democrat paper thin majority in Congress could manipulate TPA to pass other things simply by calling them a "trade agreement". Basically, it makes a razor thin majority in both houses as good as a two-thirds majority in both houses.

Opponents of something are usually anxious to have a straight up or down vote as are proponents who know they have the votes. There's no rational reason to require that something be handled that way unless it's to deliberately avoid the public knowing the details of what Congress is voting on.

If Cruz can't see that someone needs to wake him up and explain it to him. On the other hand, the big money that's pushing Cruz to support this absolutely can see that fact which makes me believe that if Cruz is as smart as people say he is, Cruz knows it, too.

Either way, passing TPA is extremely dangerous and totally uncalled for.

180 posted on 06/12/2015 8:40:34 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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