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Cruz: TPA Doesn’t Give Obama More Power, Jeff Sessions ‘Not Accurate’ On TPP
Breitbard ^ | 06/12/2015 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 06/12/2015 12:41:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Texas Senator and GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) argued Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) “is not giving the president more authority” and that Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) is “not accurate” in some of his claims regarding the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) on Friday’s broadcast of “The Kuhner Report” on Boston’s WRKO.

Cruz argued that he had been the staunchest opponent of President Barack Obama in Congress. He then separated TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) and the TPP (the Trans-Pacific Partnership). He touched on TPA first, stating that “history has demonstrated, the only way to get a trade agreement adopted is with fast-track. Since FDR, consistently, for 80 years, presidents in both parties have had fast-track. Anytime fast-track has lapsed, trade agreements don’t get negotiated.” He later added that it was a “misunderstanding” to say TPA gave away the Senate’s treaty power. Cruz stated that “Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law. Number one, you can pass a treaty ratified by 2/3ds of the Senate. Or number two, you can pass legislation passed by a majority of both of houses of Congress and signed by the president. … TPA uses the second constitutional path.” And “it’s been long recognized that the Constitution’s Origination Clause applies to trade bills, which means the House of Representatives has to be involved. There’s a reason why trade bills have historically not been done as treaties, because the Constitution says that anything concerning the raising of revenues, and trade bills concern tariffs, which are the raising of revenues, has to originate in the House of Representatives. So, the process of approving a trade agreement through both houses of Congress has been the way it has been done for roughly a century. And it is not giving the president more authority.”

Regarding TPP, Cruz said

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; alabama; cruz; election2016; globalistsforcruz; jeffsessions; tedcruz; texas; tisa; tpa; tpp; wikileaks
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To: wolfman23601

PLEEEEEASE GO NO! No more Bushes, no more Clintons and no more Kennedys!


41 posted on 06/12/2015 1:19:40 PM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: tennmountainman
I heard not heard one word fro Cruz demanding this secret bill be made public.

From the audio of Ted Cruz's interview (WRKO Town Hall with Ted Cruz, May 30, 2015, Hour 2), for TPA, the legislation has been 6 years in making. President should have an authority to negotiate the trade deal until it is finalized, then send the bill to the Congress for up-or-down vote with no amendment. (Otherwise, President has to go back and re-negotiate. How long will it take to get it done? That's why it is called “Fast Track”)

In response to people who are afraid that he voted to give more power to Obama, he said that he didn't trust Obama at all. Obama won't be in the office in 19 months. He looked into the future for the next president to have an authority to negotiate. Hopefully, the next president will be a Republican, especially him. Now is the time to get it passed with Democrats. If we wait for the next administration (Republican), Democrats in Congress will vote it down no matter what.

For TPP, he said it was stupid to have the text classified. He READ the TPP. It was relatively a straightforward trade agreement. He didn’t have weeks to study each paragraph closely. Unfortunately, from the past history of the administration’s abuse of power, the secrecy gives the impression that they are hiding something horrible in the bill. Fortunately, under TPA they have to make any trade agreement, including TPP, public for 60 days before the Congress can vote on it. People can study closely at this time. But personally he wanted the text public right now.

42 posted on 06/12/2015 1:20:56 PM PDT by Isara
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To: cripplecreek

Because everyone already knows what he is.


43 posted on 06/12/2015 1:22:21 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why does Obama support this then? Are we supposed to believe that for the first time EVER, the Marxist has no anti-American ulterior motives? Sorry!


44 posted on 06/12/2015 1:24:12 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The wheel of fortune changes everything. Don't lose your head now." "Riyadh" by Al Stewart)
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To: Isara

Then my advice to Cruz and others is to withhold their support until this
bill is Availabe to all, so it can be scored based on what is in it.

Maybe you like secrecy, but many do not.


45 posted on 06/12/2015 1:24:15 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: cripplecreek
For those who are OK with trashing Cruz to protect your candidate, Just remember, those Romney people on the campaign WILL eat your candidate before they're done and despite any fantasies to the contrary, you won't be able to stop it.

I remember how nasty Romney's team was in the last primary. They tried to destroy Sarah Palin before she even decided to run. They stalked Newt every where he gave a speech to feed an immediate onsite attack to the media.

46 posted on 06/12/2015 1:26:43 PM PDT by Isara
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To: SoConPubbie

Is Cruz dumb enough to hang his candidacy for president on this crap Americans DO NOT WANT?

You are losing stock with me Ted.


47 posted on 06/12/2015 1:27:52 PM PDT by Fledermaus (NO RINO 2016 or I stay home. Shove it FR RINO lovers.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yeah, sure. Everyone would be against something that Oborto would never do. What sort of logical fallacy is this?


48 posted on 06/12/2015 1:28:36 PM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: SoConPubbie

Cruz has been solid enough over the years that I am willing to listen.


49 posted on 06/12/2015 1:29:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We're 15% less evil than the Democrats!!!")
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To: SoConPubbie

Cruz has been solid enough over the years that I am willing to listen.


50 posted on 06/12/2015 1:29:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We're 15% less evil than the Democrats!!!")
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To: Isara

Might be valuable to get some of those crapweasels on the right side. Where is the next Lee Atwater?


51 posted on 06/12/2015 1:30:13 PM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: SoConPubbie
OBAMATRADE
Congress Has To Pass It To Find Out What's In It
(with a humorous photo of Obama with a caption on the side)
http://obamatrade.com/

The Economy
Obamatrade Gives Foreign Companies Unfair Advantage Over American Businesses
http://obamatrade.com/the-economy/
Obamatrade would empower foreign companies to use foreign tribunals to enforce special privileges only available to them. Obamatrade would exempt foreign companies from EPA and other onerous regulations that American firms would still be forced to comply with. Under Obamatrade, foreign companies could actually go to an international tribunal and sue American taxpayers for cash awards to compensate them for costs associated with government regulations – something American-owned companies would not be able to do.


White House confirms immigration is in Obamatrade
http://obamatrade.com/white-house-confirms-immigration-is-in-obamatrade/
A White House news conference on April 28 with President Obama and Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe confirms the TransPacific Partnership will impact our immigration laws. PM Abe described the TPP as “a new economic sphere in which people goods and money will flow freely.”


Obamatrade = Unrestricted Immigration
http://obamatrade.com/obamatrade-unlimited-immigration/


52 posted on 06/12/2015 1:32:20 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: magna carta

I’m not sure that he is electable, given some ill-advised statements he made in the past.


53 posted on 06/12/2015 1:32:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: familyop
White House confirms immigration is in Obamatrade

Why would you believe for a second ANYTHING Obama or his cronies have to say?

Myth 7: TPP is a secret backdoor for a parade of horribles (and TPA lets that happen)!

Totally false. Various politicians and pundits have sought to arouse suspicions by claiming, among other things, that TPA will permit President Obama to bypass Congress and use the TPP as a backdoor to, among other things, lawlessly expand immigration, curtail gun rights, or restrict Internet freedom. At this point, however, I hope you can see just how ridiculous these claims are. Regardless of the issue, the fact will always remain that nothing can be implemented via the TPP unless Congress agrees to implement it via a formal vote.

This would include things like new work visas (something that U.S. FTAs haven’t actually done for years now) or Internet regulations or gun rules or minimum wages or whatever: it all has to become law before it has any legal force, and the only people making law are Congress (and, again, according to their own procedural rules). So, if in the TPP the president committed the United States to toss every AR-15 into the Atlantic Ocean, those guns aren’t going anywhere unless Congress formally agrees, subject to all of the constitutional, procedural, and transparency rules already discussed.

And, really, do you think this Congress is going to do anything of the sort? Really? (For more specific debunking of these crazy ideas, go here, here, here and here.)

We still don’t know precisely what’s in the TPP, and final judgment—by Congress and the public—should therefore be withheld until we do. But the idea that TPP, empowered by TPA, will grant President Obama any new legal authority to ignore or change U.S. immigration or gun or whatever laws without Congress is simply ludicrous.


54 posted on 06/12/2015 1:34:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: magna carta
"we need jeff sessions for prez...does anyone think we can get him?"

What happens when Sessions says or does something you disagree with, as will inevitably happen? Who are you going to look for then?

Ted Cruz is the best choice we have, by far.

55 posted on 06/12/2015 1:36:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: onyx

I absolutely agree. And also what these senators and House representatives were able to read was in a state of flux— like a sand bar.

If I were a senator or representative, under this president, there is no way my conscience would let me skip over such thin ice you could see the water moving underneath and commit my country to such a fluid piece of legislation placed into the hands of this particular president, who bypasses Congress regularly with no conscience.

I really hope for a come-to-meeting of the minds between Cruz and Sessions. Jeff is the nerd of the senate, trustworthy, virtually no ambition for power, and NOT running for president.

If ALL our candidates voted for this dog, then Cruz may not have hurt himself that much. I mean who else was against it, but for Trump! He despised it, as one more shot in the foot for America and he thought everyone knew it. Oh, well.

Boehner is bringing it back next week. Yikes!


56 posted on 06/12/2015 1:36:36 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: SoConPubbie

So Ted, how can there be “no actual agreement” on the one hand, while on the other you are sure that it doesn’t impact sovereignty in any way or change immigration policy (or law) in any way?

Just how can you be so sure?

Why not publish the current form of the agreement, so we can all be sure?

(PS - You may be a numb skull, but that doesn’t mean I am.)

Any avid supporter or Ted’s stance on this - please respond to these queries.


57 posted on 06/12/2015 1:37:20 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Isara

Outside of Rand (Snowball’s chance) Paul, pretty much every candidate has supported it if not through a vote then through their words. Some have even gone overseas to lobby for it.

Apparently most conservatives just want someone to tell them what they want to hear, they don’t care if its a lie.


58 posted on 06/12/2015 1:37:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Freedom_Fighter_2001
Yeah, sure. Everyone would be against something that Oborto would never do. What sort of logical fallacy is this?

And what sort of Logical Fallacy is it to make a Definitive statement that no matter what, if Obama is for it, I am against it?

It leaves out the possibility that Obama could be for something for drastically different reasons, or his reasons could be complete incorrect or false.
59 posted on 06/12/2015 1:37:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Ted Cruz is a globalist, pro-secrecy, pro-Tyranny,
PHONEY, whom I unfortunately previously supported.

Now Cruz is revealed as just another member
of THE GiveObama(more)Power party, who threw
his supporters away this week, in part to reportedly
transfer money to his wife.


60 posted on 06/12/2015 1:38:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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