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To: cotton1706

Does anyone else see the flaw in this logic? The feds are ignoring the Constitution, so let’s amend the Constitution. What, why? So they can ignore the amendments too? Seems to be the same logic behind gun grabbers, more laws, even though we all know criminals break laws...


9 posted on 06/13/2015 6:02:58 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“So they can ignore the amendments too?”

Easy answer, with STRUCTURAL changes that cannot be just be ignored. Since the 17th amendment, no senator has been chosen by a state legislature. Since the 22nd amendment, no president has been elected more than twice (though granted both the Clintons and the Bushes are trying to get around that with the wife and the brother).

And amendment limiting the terms of congress (or even better, an amendment allowing the states to do so, or to instituted recalls) could not be ignored.

An amendment limiting the time judges spend on the judiciary could not be ignored.

An amendment requiring that all executive agency regulation be voted on in congress before such regulations take effect, could not be ignored.

An amendment allowing the states or the congress (or both) to overrule a judicial opinion could not be ignored.

The founders struggled in their time to create “a more perfect union” and they gave the people and the states the means to perfect it even further, through the amendment process.


10 posted on 06/13/2015 6:07:48 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Does anyone else see the flaw in this logic? The feds are ignoring the Constitution, so let’s amend the Constitution. What, why?

Zer0 operates under his own set of laws that he creates and amends as needed.


17 posted on 06/13/2015 6:33:16 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Certainly, it may have no effect. . .MOST certainly doing nothing will have no effect. However, the act of 34 states joining together in a display of Constitutional authority will be a much needed reminder and education for the nation that the authority to govern comes from outside of Washington.

Sure, the bully is bigger, stronger and has more weapons. . .but, even so, sometimes the bully needs to be reminded of his limitations and the only course available to do so is a well-placed punch in the nose. Can the bully kick our ass, if he wants?. . .sure. ..but there comes a time when action must be taken. . ACTION, not a prediction of likely outcomes. . .The men who were hunkered down on Omaha beach under a withering German fire were faced with a similar decision. . .they too knew that the time to act and to do what is right. . had come upon them. . even in the face of the fact that the most likely outcome would be their demise.

I say the choice is this: die hunkered down on the beach or die in a final charge toward the bunker. America was built by men who decided the latter and not the former.

I say, lets charge up the hill with Article V!!

20 posted on 06/13/2015 6:40:09 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: ThunderSleeps; Sasparilla
Levin's Liberty Amendments was published almost two years ago.

You can read the first chapter at Amazon. He explains it all.

26 posted on 06/13/2015 6:51:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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