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Ted Cruz Ping! This is an outright lie. The Fate of TPP/TiSA/TTIP will be determined by TPA. AS Cruz pointed out during the obamacare debate "A Vote For Cloture Is A Vote For Obamacare". TPA functions the came as cloture by removing the senate 2/3rds requirement.
It's obvious that the 2/3rds requirement is currently preventing passage of trade. I will consider support ONLY when I have seen the bills. The passage of TPA will guarantee passage of trade bills BEFORE the public has viewed them.
Still learning about TPA/TPP
I do find it interesting that India and China are the biggest drain on USA jobs and are not included in either of these agreements.
ANYONE who votes for this is dead to me.
ANYONE.
Only the vilest of traitors could support this, no matter what they say or do otherwise, they can rot in hell.
1) What he's saying is that TPA is like all the other trade bills since FDR, and that there have been a lot of them. This is broadly verifiable, since he says TPA is a public document. Can someone settle this?
2) Trade is good. Check that: Trade is essential. There is no development or wealth without it. Thomas Sowell has always told us so, and I believe him.
3) Freer trade is better trade. Pat Buchanan is wrong on this. Truly freer, that is: Not just freer for contributors to the party in power who want to import cheap stuff and let the regs entangle everyone else. That got us the Civil War, if you remember. But the key is that putting shackles on trade is putting shackles on innovation, competition, and ultimately on American prosperity. Example: For decades, we protected the auto unions in Detroit by keeping Japanese cars out of the country. All that did was remove incentives for Detroit to keep improving their cars. Finally, the restrictions and tariffs were lowered, and the Japanese cars came in—having developed in more competitive markets. They clobbered Detroit. Not just on price, but on design, performance, reliability, service, and INTELLIGENCE. Without protecting our lax and corrupt auto industry, our cars would have improved 35 years earlier, and we probably wouldn't have lost that whole city in the meantime.
4) Does the vote on TPA truly function as a cloture vote on TPP? I'd like to see confirmation of this. Has anyone asked the Senator this, and has he responded, or refused to respond? Is TPP genuinely unbeatable by anything short of a hurricane making landfall in the District, no matter how bad the bill is? Can someone truly demonstrate this? So far, I haven't seen Cruz make empty claims, which that would imply. But I would consider evidence. As I read them, the responses cited are logical and clear, and consistent with what I know.
The main collision here seems to be between the free trade view and the tariff view of the world—which is the Democrats' turf. That's where your goal is to pass special tariffs to protect your friends and contributors—as opposed to a free-for-all that rewards innovation. My read of history is that the latter system is more just and involves less government interference, and embodies what has made America succeed.
Good info, but alas - many won’t let facts get in the way of their knee-jerk attempts to take down the most conservative choice we’ve had in decades...