Several of us have been pondering this for weeks now. Myself, I actually have a BA in Psychology, unlike some posters who claim experiences they clearly have not had. Psychology got it’s start by saying “we don’t have to know what is in the box to begin to understand it if we can observe it’s repeatable and reproducible behavior we can begin to make inferences about what must be going on in there.”. And so Psychology was born.
Einstein and his friends used to do similar sorts of “gedanken” experiments (that’s “thought experiments for you, TG, as I understand they didn’t teach Physics where you got your degree in Engineering).
In any case, bear with me briefly while we conduct several “thought” experiments. Remember Travis’ diagram of the buzz saw the Waco PD set up (speaking of Travis, where is he lately, in jail for posting?). Remember the circle he inscribed and labeled “kill zone”? As a group we seem to be unable to reach consensus because some who may actually be legitimate FReepers feel that this incident is justified by who was inside that circle and what they were doing at the moment they received rifle fire from three different directions. So let’s us just take “Schrodinger’s cat” out of that box ( or circle, in this case) and put, for starters, say the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted in that circle. Now Elliot Ness has gotten wind of the fact that these notorious gangsters are going to be there, at that moment, and it is his BIG CHANCE.
Or let us even add a slightly different twist. Let us say Jerry Falwell, before he went to his reward, got a clear, undeniable message from God Himself that Satan would appear in the parking lot of a breastaurant on that given date and time. All he had to do was have three riflemen at the ready and he could win the war against Sin for eternity.
The question I am asking is this, “Is there anytime in our nation’s history when any level of LE would have considered lighting up a crowded restaurant and it’s adjoining parking lot FOR ANY REASON?”. Of course not. So what is so different about this incident, at this time? The media is completely incurious. While the Kenyan Klown can’t wait for the blood to quit flowing about things like Ferguson or Charleston to pipe up and weigh in he has not a word to say about Twin Peaks.
So, returning to where I started, we really don’t have to “know” what machinations are taking place in the inaccessible “box” to observe the behavior the “box” produces. While we don’t know the particulars we do know this, whatever happened it must have been pretty extreme. The box has folded up tighter than the Clinton Foundation and the media is doing back flips to get away from this story. As the days go by, turning into weeks and months, the “modified, limited hangout” just persists.
The reason some of us are interested in this incident (and TG, I know you will find this just impossible to believe) is not that we have any endearment for Mongols or Bandidos or what have you. We pay careful attention to a number of events that inform us of just “where we are”. Are we at the Claire Wolf point? Clearly, this delusional young man in Charleston thought so. He and Charlie Manson seem to have been on the same page. Will his effort have been in vain, pray God, I hope so. But I get distracted. Again, I ask, at what prior point in US history would lighting up a public place with rifle fire have been so quietly and silently accepted?
The inescapable answer seems to be from the measure we see here that damn few care. But it is not enough that so few are concerned but that we must be ferreted out and accused by anonymous individuals who don’t have the integrity to hurl their accusations from foundations they actually embrace.
I suspect those individuals are actually fairly young and have long lives ahead of them. Mores the pity. The curse of old age is that you get to live in the world you created. You may scoff when young that we “have no need of God”. You may tell yourself that “morality is situational” to justify your passions of youth. Many of us did and have seen what chaos we created. Ask yourself, ye trolls, what will your world look like when you have succeeded? Prepare yourselves, because if you are unlucky you may have to live in it.
That narrative breaks down when the bikers themselves say bikers started the shooting. One of the Cossacks reports seeing his father, prone on the ground, killed with two handgun rounds to the back of his head by a Bandido supporter.
I think there are a lot more questions about the aftermath, arrests, and bonds, etc. Releasing the available video would help, but I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon outside a successful FOIA request.
Not only have some accepted it, they have applauded it. not only that, when the Government decides to take out a group that they consider a threat to their tyranny, say the Tea Partiers or adherents to Constitutional Government which includes Second amendment advocates and supporters. Those who now cheer on and applaud the action[s]of the Government now will be on the front lines cheering them on, aiding and abetting them. Why? Because they worship at the altar of authority and power. Like the dog returning to its vomit, the sow returning to its mire, and the burned bandaged hand of the fool reaching again for the fire, they can't help themselves. It was demonstrated in Germany in the 30s and early 40s and is being demonstrated in the United States of America today. Whether it is Jews, motorcycle clubs, of Tea Party members, or legitimate gun owners matters not. What matters is that those in authority declare them undesirable, trouble makers, and criminals.
Concerning the motorcycle clubs, any law violation they commit can be handled by the Courts, a/k/a Due Process of Law as described and provided for in the Constitution. And the Government moles and judas goats have alleged that they have committed everything from singing too loud in church to unlawful carnal knowledge. If they have, fine. Charge them with the appropriate offenses, arrest them for the alleged offense and let them have their day in Court.