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To: sourcery
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.” ~ Lysander Spooner

The constitution is a tool. The fact that American citizens have chosen to appoint public servants that refuse to use it correctly is not a reflection of the tool.

15 posted on 06/21/2015 11:18:42 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington.)
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To: oldbrowser
Amen.

"Let it simply be asked, ‘Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths...?"

-- George Washington


18 posted on 06/21/2015 11:26:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Polling: The art of determining how effectively the people were fooled by your last poll.)
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To: oldbrowser
No, but if the tool is left unused and left to rust, what good is it? That is the point he is making.
I guess the answer to that question is that the tool may be found by a later and more-enlightened society, and its rust removed for good new use.
26 posted on 06/21/2015 11:37:06 AM PDT by expat2
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To: oldbrowser
The constitution is a tool. The fact that American citizens have chosen to appoint public servants that refuse to use it correctly is not a reflection of the tool.

Without the people using it effectively, a Constitution is "just a piece of paper." Tools don't use themselves.

That's why the failure of the people to effectively use the Constitution is metaphorically equivalent to the failure of the Constitution. Saying that "Constitutions don't work" is just a metaphor for the assertion that the subjects of a state can't/won't use Constitutions to protect their liberty. They never have, and never will. Not for any historically significant length of time.

“The man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, ‘Limit yourself’; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian.” ~ Rothbard
“I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom. Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks — no form of government can render us secure.” ~ James Madison
"If men are good, you don’t need government; if men are evil or ambivalent, you don’t dare have one." ~ Robert LeFevre

49 posted on 06/21/2015 12:30:34 PM PDT by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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