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To: bigdaddy45
You’re doing a great job of defending slavery. Nice work!

Facts about slavery are a defense of slavery? How does that work? Pointing out that Massachusetts never passed any laws against slavery until after the Civil War, how is that a defense? You still want to believe Massachusetts was filled with Abolitionists?

Mentioning the thousands of blacks who owned slaves and sold their own children into slavery -that's a defense? Actually there was one reported case in which a black woman bought her husband and when he didn't behave she sold him back into slavery.

These are inconvenient facts that the liberals prefer you didn't know. Unlike liberals some Freepers would like to know the facts. Killing the messenger doesn't change the facts.

120 posted on 06/22/2015 6:29:41 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

They are irrelevant facts. Guess what, some Jews actually worked in the camps and sold out their fellow Jews. So? Whats your point?


121 posted on 06/22/2015 7:31:51 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: ladyjane; bigdaddy45; DoodleDawg
ladyjane: "Pointing out that Massachusetts never passed any laws against slavery until after the Civil War, how is that a defense?"

Again, here is a listing according to census data of actual slaves by state, by year.
You will note that Massachusetts recorded one slave in 1830, but none before or after.
My state, Pennsylvania, slowly phased-out slavery and recorded its last slaves in the 1840 census.

Your claim that some "indentured servants" were in reality black slaves is not supported by any reliable data I know of.

ladyjane: "You still want to believe Massachusetts was filled with Abolitionists? "

In 1860 no Northern state was "filled with Abolitionists".
In 1860 the vast majority of Northerners were totally content to let slavery continue in the South.
What they adamantly opposed was extending slavery into their own states via the Supreme Court's Dred-Scott decision, or into western territories which didn't want them.

But such limited opposition to slavery was more than enough to fuel Southern Fire Eaters' flames of secession, especially when it was represented in the person of President-elect Abraham Lincoln.

ladyjane: "Mentioning the thousands of blacks who owned slaves and sold their own children into slavery -that's a defense?
Actually there was one reported case in which a black woman bought her husband and when he didn't behave she sold him back into slavery."

And this is supposed to prove or illustrate what, exactly?
That blacks obeyed the laws of the land, and worked hard to get ahead in life, as best they could?
And in what sense does that defend the South's "peculiar institution" of slavery?

ladyjane: "These are inconvenient facts that the liberals prefer you didn't know.
Unlike liberals some Freepers would like to know the facts."

What you here call "inconvenient facts" are in truth laughable fantasies, concocted by pro-Confederates in order to distort history and confuse the real issues.

146 posted on 06/23/2015 6:40:14 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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