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To: Lurker
Meanwhile in Iraq ISIS is selling 12 year old Christian girls into sexual slavery...

Which is so very different from the southern states which started the civil war because of their desire to maintain the enslavement of black people. The Confederacy tore the nation apart and caused over 600,000 deaths. All because the south wanted to keep slaves. You know, black people - some of whom were Christians - who they would whip, rape, and sell. But, hey, that's so much different than ISIS who whips, rapes, sells... oh, never mind.

40 posted on 06/23/2015 8:27:59 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic
You know, black people - some of whom were Christians - who they would whip, rape, and sell.

You don't know much about the south, do you?

45 posted on 06/23/2015 8:46:01 PM PDT by okie01
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Constant Skeptic wrote:

“But, hey, that’s so much different than ISIS who whips, rapes, sells... oh, never mind.”
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So: are you saying that two wrongs somehow make a ‘right’?

Nobody today is responsible for the slavery that took place in the U.S. in centuries past. In fact, many of those who died in the Civil War, died because they personally wanted to END slavery in the U.S.

Slavery, and much worse, are taking place all over the Middle East and Africa, as we speak/write.

How do you propose that we end slavery Over There? Or, do you just want to argue and tear-down?

-JT


46 posted on 06/23/2015 8:46:12 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: ConstantSkeptic

Yes, do be careful about preconceptions, Skeptic. And it’s a pretty good idea not to believe anything that was written after communism began in America without rock solid proof (photographs).
(You know what propaganda is, right?)


53 posted on 06/23/2015 10:39:23 PM PDT by KGeorge (First the Confederate Battle Flag, then the Cross. It's not far off.)
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To: ConstantSkeptic
Psssst.

(Be careful about preconceptions)

The numbers are out there, if you look, but 90+% of the white southerners were not slave owners. There were black slave owners. There were Northern slaveowners (who, no doubt, whipped, raped, and sold their slaves).[did I get the order right? /s]

Reality check:

The vast majority of those who could afford a slave would not so damage their investment by abusing it, but would rather be more motivated to provide food, housing, clothing, adequate medical care (for the day), so their investment could work and provide a return on that investment.

Sure, there were the abusive out there, just as there are wife beaters and child molesters today, but the majority of people do not fall into the far tip of the worst of the bell curve now, nor did they then.

Uncle Tom's Cabin" was a novel: abolitionist sympathetic fiction prone to the hyperbole of the day, a form of hyperbole which led to the fictions of rampaging shootouts across the "Wild Wild West" just a decade later--after all, it sells newspapers and magazines!

The South did not invent slavery. It was a very well established institution throughout the world long before either whites or negroes set foot on this continent, and many of the tribes more native to this place practiced it well before the first Vikings set foot on the shores of North America.

Now, for extra credit, Who wrote the words: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."?

OMG!! A white, Southern, slaveowner.

I think that if you do a few decades of good, solid research, you will find the issues which led to secession and war went back to the 1820s and beyond. But slavery was only one of many issues which confronted these United States in their first 60 years under the Constitution.

54 posted on 06/23/2015 11:03:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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