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Yet Again, A Scalia Dissent Is Used Against Him
Talking Points Memo ^ | 06/25/2015 | Tierney Sneed

Posted on 06/25/2015 12:06:49 PM PDT by GIdget2004

Justice Antonin Scalia strongly objected to Thursday's Supreme Court decision upholding the Affordable Care Act, so it was amusing to see Chief Justice John Roberts use Scalia's own dissent in the last major Obamacare case against him.

It was buried in a footnote and amounted to a small dart lobbed Scalia's way, especially when compared to Scalia's blistering dissent that ripped Roberts' legal reasoning.

To defend making the subsidies available to consumers everywhere, Roberts cited a line the dissent to the 2012 decision in favor of Obamacare, in which Scalia said, "Without the federal subsidies . . . the exchanges would not operate as Congress intended and may not operate at all."

Roberts used the line to argue that it "is implausible that Congress meant the Act to operate" in a manner to limit the subsidies only to those states with state-operated exchanges, as the challengers in King v. Burwell argued.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; aca; antoninscalia; deathpanels; obamacare; scalia; scotus; zerocare
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1 posted on 06/25/2015 12:06:49 PM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

Not unusual.


2 posted on 06/25/2015 12:08:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: GIdget2004

Yeah...Right....

The law was written to BLACKMAIL the states into “compliance”. SCOTUS is supposed to protect WE THE PEOPLE from this type of heavy-handed political squeeze.

When’s it going to be enough for WE THE PEOPLE to drop the “R” word and go all out on their sorry tyrannical pinko socialist butts???


3 posted on 06/25/2015 12:17:23 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

If we start today... it will take three generations to recover from the damage inflicted on The Republic by the past three. By that time, though, nobody will care... about must anything other than what time “Ow, My Balls” is on.


4 posted on 06/25/2015 12:22:20 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GIdget2004
This is idiocy. Scalia simply noted another huge problem with 0bamacare as written. It didn't mean that Scalia was in favor of rewriting the legislation from the bench in order to save a poorly written and unconstitutional law.
5 posted on 06/25/2015 12:28:00 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: GIdget2004

Robert’s arguments sound very similar to someone that murders her parents and then begs the court’s mercy as she is an orphan.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 12:28:14 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: GIdget2004
One might as well argue that Congress, in enacting Social Security, had to know that insufficient revenues would be generated many decades down the road and thus, it would be perfectly reasonable for the IRS to demand that employers and employees double their deductions.

This would hold even if the present Congress were to explicitly ban such deductions.

I wish there was a way to convince my liberal relative that the nation is finished and that things will not work out at all the way he thinks they will.

7 posted on 06/25/2015 12:32:42 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: GIdget2004

Roberts used the line to argue that it “is implausible that Congress meant the Act to operate” in a manner to limit the subsidies only to those states with state-operated exchanges


Roberts is no fool. He knows that intelligent people know what he’s doing there. But he doesn’t care because the stakes are too high. Apparently, ruling in the other direction would result in such a negative situation that it was worth abandoning the constitution and the actual meaning of English words.

He’s probably right, but that doesn’t justify what he did.


8 posted on 06/25/2015 12:37:32 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: GIdget2004

Roberts must feel really proud siding with the three imbecilic disgusting leftist women on that “court”. Thank God Obama gave him company on that travesty.


9 posted on 06/25/2015 12:39:56 PM PDT by Williams
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To: GIdget2004
The Justices often duel with each other when they are on different sides of a decision and love to play gotcha. It's often in snarky footnotes.

It's been going on for quite a while and in my opinion is unbecoming the Court.

10 posted on 06/25/2015 12:40:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Rodamala

That only applies if they’re expecting to salvage the Social Security trust fund they keep looting.

Congress merely has to push the “reset button” on social security. “Sorry, social security will no longer apply to you. We will stop collecting and increase taxes to the same level. You’re screwed. Have a nice day.”


11 posted on 06/25/2015 12:40:37 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: GIdget2004

They know they’re making sh*t up.

We know they’re making sh*t up.

They know we know they’re making sh*t up.

We know they know we know they’re making sh*t up.

There is no pretending anymore.

It’s a dictatorship.


12 posted on 06/25/2015 12:40:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Law is whatever the Oligarchs say it is today. You little people can STFU or get locked up.)
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To: GIdget2004

Roberts needs to read Scalia’s dissent sentences and phrases in context.


13 posted on 06/25/2015 12:40:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

“When in the course of human events...”


14 posted on 06/25/2015 12:41:59 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Uncle Miltie

As I’ve said - they’ve dropped all pretense of legitimacy.

They only rule now through threats of deadly force for disobedience,
not through the consent of the governed.

Everyone needs to accept that and act accordingly.


15 posted on 06/25/2015 12:43:08 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Amen, brother.

I’ll fight when called upon. I may not be able to go to the front of the line of fire, but I’ve got two good legs, lots of energy (for an octogenarian), and a sharp mind.

Maybe I can clean khakis or prepare meals. Or drive vehicles. Anything to help the cause.


16 posted on 06/25/2015 12:44:14 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: GIdget2004

It’s the Alinski ridicule that conservatives get from the Democrat media every time it is obvious that this government has betrayed the Constitution once again. Today’s decision on SCOTUSCARE was just the latest example of this government’s corruption.


17 posted on 06/25/2015 12:44:40 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: GIdget2004

TPM, a voice for the Fascist Obama Cult media, has to dig into a footnote to discern how Scalia is supposedly proven wrong.

Meanwhile, TPM (a voice for the Fascist Obama Cult media) ignores the plain written text of the law—just like SCOTUS.

Obamugabe’s Death Panels will not last, that is certain.

SCOTUS and the Obamacult Fascists have merely seen that law will last a little while longer.


18 posted on 06/25/2015 1:03:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cuban leaf
Roberts used the line to argue that it “is implausible that Congress meant the Act to operate” in a manner to limit the subsidies only to those states with state-operated exchanges... He’s probably right...

He's not right. He's lying.

Roberts already knows that Congress acted in a coercive manner when in 2012 he struck down the linking of all Medicaid funds to accepting the Medicaid expansion for Obamacare.

It's disingenuous to now say that Congress would never have forced the states to create exchanges this way, when he struck down a similar scheme already.

-PJ

19 posted on 06/25/2015 1:03:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Roberts already knows that Congress acted in a coercive manner when in 2012 he struck down the linking of all Medicaid funds to accepting the Medicaid expansion for Obamacare.

It’s disingenuous to now say that Congress would never have forced the states to create exchanges this way, when he struck down a similar scheme already.


Exactly. Which means he’s doing it for reasons unknown. We can only speculate. But the bottom line is that it is absurd on the face of it. You know it, I know it and he knows it. And he knows we know. Which means he’s willing to sacrifice his and the court’s credibility for something even more valuable, or pressing.

I wish I could see this from the eyes of ten years from now. I suspect I do though, or at least am on the right track.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 2:35:54 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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