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[Same-Sex Marriage and] Christian leaders: The Chamberlains and the Churchills
WND ^ | 6/23/15 | Jim Garlow

Posted on 06/26/2015 4:53:56 AM PDT by rhema

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But my concern is less with prognosticating on what the court might do, but rather on the reaction of the Christian community to the presumed attempted destruction of marriage, specifically from its leaders. What should we expect?

It appears to me that there are some who suffer from “Tony Campolo Syndrome.” That is, they are on the verge of “stepping over” – coming out of the “one-man-one-woman marriage closet” – and a bit eager to embrace so-called same-sex “marriage.”

Why will several prominent Christian “leaders” do this? It will not be because they can biblically defend it. They cannot.

It will because – now how do I say this nicely? – they are cowardly. You see, it is now culturally chic – oh, so very cool – to affirm so called same-sex “marriage.” By doing so, one appears so “with it,” so “relevant.” And it make you appear – notice, only appear – to be so kind and grace giving.

I fully expect several high-profile pastors and Christian leaders – based on the “rumblings” – to use the Supreme Court decision as an excuse –a casuistry – to violate Scripture. The phrasing that will be used will be very similar and even more boring. Even more tragic, it will be deceptive.

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With the presumed “destroy marriage” Supreme Court decision, expect Christian leaders to be divided into two categories: authentic leaders and capitulators.

True leaders don’t capitulate. Capitulators fold. True leaders will rise up and direct our nation toward true righteousness, continuing the struggle in ever creative ways. The capitulators will promptly qualify for the “cowards column” of history.

We are about to find out who the real leaders are and who are the capitulators.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; marriage; scotus; ssm

1 posted on 06/26/2015 4:53:56 AM PDT by rhema
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To: lightman; Honorary Serb; SmithL
Some of the Chamberlains have, of course, been quislings for years.
2 posted on 06/26/2015 4:56:24 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

What relevance would the supreme court ruling have in any event? Just because something isn’t legally prohibited doesn’t make it right. Adultery is legal but it isn’t morally right or justified scripturally.


3 posted on 06/26/2015 5:01:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rhema

Dividing the wheat from the chaff


4 posted on 06/26/2015 5:12:58 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: circlecity

Abortion is legal.....but it is an abomination

Any nation that legalizes the extermination of 57 million innocent citizens is in trouble, imo


5 posted on 06/26/2015 5:14:51 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: rhema

What you will hear from the capitulators:

“We are about preaching the gospel of Jesus and we can’t let social issues keep us from reaching the hearts and minds of people who need to be saved.”

It sounds wise and sensible, much like the German Christians who tried to make peace with the Nazis. Yet there are some things that are so clearly evil and so clearly in violation of the Christian walk that a line of disapproval must be drawn.

There will be hard choices. Keep our Christian business or keep our moral standards? Keep our tax-exempt status or stand firm on God’s commandements? Be publicly tarred and feathered as bigots and haters or be willing to ignore God’s Word for the sake of escaping the crosshairs of the heathen mob?

If your church has not taken a public stand, perhaps you need to nudge them off the fence and get a declared position from them. Some will disappoint you with their cowardice but better you should learn that now than learn it when the liberals are emboldened enough to denounce other parts of the Bible they do not like and demand your church conform to it.


6 posted on 06/26/2015 5:16:21 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: rhema
The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.--John 7:7

These so-called Christians DO NOT preach the gospel. If they did, the world would hate them for Jesus' sake, because real Christians, like Jesus, "testify of it, that the works thereof are evil".

Sodomy is contrary to sound doctrine. Those who embrace or excuse it not longer "fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith." (1 Timothy 1:19)

7 posted on 06/26/2015 5:45:43 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: rhema

I have little doubt that the Joel Osteens and the Rick Warrens will cave to the depravity. They’re far more concerned with conforming to the world than in guarding the Word of God.

Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

“Keepeth” (tereo) is in the sense of “go guard.”


8 posted on 06/26/2015 7:20:01 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: All

Today in history:

1945 - United Nations Charter signed by 50 nations in San Francisco.


9 posted on 06/26/2015 9:15:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; NFHale; sickoflibs; ...
Today in history: 1945 - United Nations Charter signed by 50 nations in San Francisco.

That's some potent symbolism. The UN is 70 (and has been living with Alzheimer's for some time, early onset) and Kennedy Baraq (American's new AIDS baby) is born on it's birthday.

10 posted on 06/26/2015 10:13:52 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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Interesting. The UN is worthless.

How long ‘til the Red Pope issues a missive praising the SCOTUS?


11 posted on 06/26/2015 10:19:53 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; longtermmemmory; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; NFHale; sickoflibs

” The UN is worthless.”

I wish to hell it was worthless. It is downright EVIL, and our enemy.

How long ‘til the Red Pope issues a missive praising the SCOTUS?”

SJB: “ Stay outta da Jesuits!! “


12 posted on 06/26/2015 10:36:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Right. Very evil.

Yep. This Jesuit is a leftist, bordering on evil.

I talked to my Uncle a little while ago (he’s turning 80 on Sunday), and he said: “ I’m glad I’m a short timer.’

I honestly can’t disagree with him.

He also said things are going to get a lot worse. Again, I can’t disagree there either.


13 posted on 06/26/2015 11:02:14 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: rhema

“From the Beginning”: God’s Design for Marriage

A Statement from the Anglican Church in North America

The Archbishop and Bishops of the Anglican Church in North America have received the recent ruling by the Supreme Court of the United States of America and are deeply grieved by the stark departure from God’s revealed order. We are concerned for the inevitable results from this action to change the legal understanding of marriage and family life.

While this decision grieves us, God’s truth and the goodness of the order established in creation have not been changed. The kingdom of God cannot be shaken. We pray with confidence that God will reveal his glory, love, goodness, and hope to the world through his Church as we seek to follow him in faith and obedience.

Jesus Christ teaches that God is the author of marriage from the beginning of time (Matthew 19:4-6). God’s design for marriage has always involved a man and a woman: “a man shall leave his father and his mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). These truths have ordered civilization for thousands of years. Where God’s designs are followed in any society, including his designs for marriage and families, the result is the greatest possible blessing and abundance of life.

The Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is often summarized as, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Because of his love, we love and care for all those who experience same-sex attraction. The Anglican Church in North America continues to welcome everyone to experience the transforming love of Jesus Christ.

Marriage is established by God for the procreation and raising of children and for the good of society. For this reason, governments have an interest in marriage and have delegated authority from God to protect and regulate it. But no court, no legislature and no local magistrate has the authority to redefine marriage and to impose this definition on their citizens.

The United States of America, so its founders believed and taught, is a nation under God whose citizens’ fundamental rights are derived from the Creator. There is no right to a relationship which is contrary to the Creator’s express design. We cannot accept the Supreme Court’s decision purporting to find a fundamental right to same-sex “marriage” any more than we can accept its claim to have found a right to destroy human life in the womb. We will work with others to overturn this decision, and we pray that others will join with us in this effort.

Meeting this week in Vancouver, British Columbia, we are reminded that our Canadian members have been living under a similar legal standard for the last ten years. Their situation includes minimal legal protections for those who in good conscience cannot recognize this redefinition, and it is our prayer that stronger protections will be put into place and honored in the United States.

In the meantime, we shall continue to exercise our religious freedom to perform marriages for those who come for holy matrimony as defined by our Church. The Anglican Church in North America only authorizes and only performs marriages between one man and one woman. We respect the consciences of those clergy who may decline to perform marriages as agents of the state. We ask our churches to respect such decisions and help make arrangements to minister to those seeking to be married. We are also well aware that this ruling may create difficulties for our lay members and Christian institutions as they seek to be faithful in upholding God’s design for marriage, and we will make every effort to find ways to support and stand with them.

The Church bears witness to the truth of God’s Word and God’s design of marriage (see attached statement on “Bearing Witness”). When government oversteps its rightful authority, “we must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

Today there is no place for either triumphalism or despair, so we prayerfully and sincerely urge a spirit of charity by all. We speak out of a concern for the consequences that our people and our neighbors will suffer from an unjust and unwise decision by five justices of the Supreme Court. We call those justices to repentance, even as we echo Jesus’ words, praying for God the Father to forgive them, for they know not what they have done.

We call our people to a season of prayer for marriage and offer the accompanying Litany and Prayer to guide us.

Unanimously adopted by the College of Bishops of the Anglican Church in North America.

June 26, 2015


14 posted on 06/26/2015 3:47:21 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Who can now give a moral argument against genocide?


15 posted on 06/26/2015 4:24:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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