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CHURCHES ARE THE NEXT TARGET
self | 06/26/2015 | ealgeone

Posted on 06/26/2015 7:18:11 AM PDT by ealgeone

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To: DAC21
Your opinion, or mine, about what someone else may do isn't really predictive of much.

This Pope is already on record calling same-sex marriage "demonic," so I think it's unlikely he's going to change.

121 posted on 06/26/2015 8:39:09 AM PDT by Campion
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To: ealgeone

Christianity is the target and YOUR children and grandchildren. The Christian Worldview can NOT be formed in such a toxic environment. That is the Marxist point-—to grab ALL the children and flip Good and Evil. They have to destroy the Worldview which created Individualism and Autonomy and the Age of Reason, and they KNOW how to do it. Sexualize children during Latency. It is easy. They have been corrupting your families since 1950s or before (on purpose with Neo-Freudian and the pederast Kinsey’s worldview. All to destroy morality to collapse culture. Vice creates Slaves and sexual vice is the easiest for the State to manipulate the mass. (Collective Mindlessness).

The Leftists have ALWAYS known since Sex Ed was created by Lukacs and the Cultural Marxists to literally destroy moral formation in children (Rape their Minds and Innocence). It traumatizes them and fixates them in an immature (narcissistic) stage. It prevents moral formation—and without Virtue, there is no Freedom. Outside control ONLY in adulthood (like most young adults today—it is “feel good, it is good” ethics being EMBEDDED). We see it played out in the narcissistic, evil culture today.

Latency (5-13) is when the sex drive is naturally submerged so that children will bond with the same sex-—to learn about their own identity. It is normal for girls to prefer girls and boys to prefer boys during this stage. When sexualized—like they do in schools—this natural stage is destroyed—corrupted and warped. They “see” each other in sexual terms-—as body parts which should NEVER happen. They are repulsed by differences at this age (naturally because of the necessary stages for maturity which takes YEARS) and it is when the idea that children are homosexual can be embedded, because they DO “love” the same sex at this point. It corrupts how they see boys and girls. It DESTROYS normal sexual identity formation-—and WARPS their perceptions of themselves in relationships to the “Other”.

To give them the ideas of perversion (homosexuality) destroys Christian Worldview— of perverse coupling-—prevents the complete maturity-—of that Mystery and Innocence that has to occur to create Dignity and Wonder for the opposite sex. Romance is a Christian concept and it was only in Christian cultures which gave dignity and worth to women.

It was embedded emotions during childhood which creates how you “think” in adulthood. It is WHY childhood is called the FORMATIVE years and ALL TRAUMA (disruption of normal formation) will never be erased in people. Those embedded emotions will ALWAYS be there and are ALMOST impossible to erase..


122 posted on 06/26/2015 8:41:42 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ealgeone

I’m not that kind of Christian.


123 posted on 06/26/2015 8:43:58 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: hsmomx3

“I just asked on another thread what will happen to priests/churches when they refuse to marry same sex couples.’

What if pastors offered to only marry church members? I’m sure some couple would try to fake it, but I don’t see another way.


124 posted on 06/26/2015 8:48:13 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Old Sarge
Will they go to MOSQUES and demand to be married?

A very interesting conundrum, no?

125 posted on 06/26/2015 8:57:01 AM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: ealgeone

“The church will be attacked next....and very soon. Mark my words. There will be text cases where homosexual “couples” will go to conservative Bible believing churches and ask to be married there.”

This can all be resolved with one change. Take the Defense of Marriage Act, change the name to the “Defense of Holy Matrimony Act” and send the name change to Congress for a vote.

Negates the semantics and affirms the Church’s protection from the State.

This isn’t complicated. And will take all of 10 seconds.


126 posted on 06/26/2015 8:58:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The NE Liberal Elites have declared war on the Conservative South. Civil War #2)
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To: Biggirl

“The only way that churches will escape any attacks will be to quit the “tax-exempt” status and the churches will be free to preach against the horrible sin of “same-sex marriage.””

Call marriage between one man and one woman “Holy Matrimony” and you just turned gay marriage into what it was in the first place, a civil union.

They only cared about the word marriage. Nothing more, nothing less. The left only cares about words and labels, or is no one paying attention?

This ruling as well as yesterday’s only meant that the left is winning the war on words, yet we will not take action.


127 posted on 06/26/2015 9:01:52 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The NE Liberal Elites have declared war on the Conservative South. Civil War #2)
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To: thorvaldr
The simple answer is for churches to make a policy that only people who have been members for some time and are paid up on their tithes can get married in the church.

Is there any law against charging them huge, gigantic sums of money to perform a marriage ceremony? That might discourage most of them.

128 posted on 06/26/2015 9:05:37 AM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: ealgeone

States should abolish marriage in favor of civil unions. Anyone can get a civil union. However, marriage is reserved for churches. No one is required to get married and civil unions can be handed out to anyone by the state.


129 posted on 06/26/2015 9:10:48 AM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ealgeone

You are right the evil militant sodomites will not stop until they have shut churches down or are forced to wed them. I hope Pope Francis makes a strong statement about this.


130 posted on 06/26/2015 9:15:58 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: Rich21IE

Then it is time to gather your friends and worship in your homes. You don’t need a pastor/priest/rabbi to lead prayers of adoration, confession, thanksgiving, and supplication.


131 posted on 06/26/2015 9:17:59 AM PDT by North Coast Conservative (It's time to start playing cowboys and muslims.)
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To: ealgeone
We need to draw a distinction between the administrative process of marriage between 2 people, and the sacrament of holy matrimony.

The court ruled that the part administered by the state has to be open to all, but does that now compel religious institutions to perform the ceremony of holy matrimony for all couples?

If so; freedom of religion is indeed dead.

Let's see how the mosques handle this.

132 posted on 06/26/2015 9:20:15 AM PDT by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: Mark17

“Is there any law against charging them huge, gigantic sums of money to perform a marriage ceremony? That might discourage most of them.”

If you have a straight price and a gay price I think that would be considered discriminatory.


133 posted on 06/26/2015 9:20:48 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Vigilanteman

You realize Joel 3:10 was directed at those AGAINST the Lord? It was a call to have all the heathen bring their might against Jerusalem so the Lord could show his power in overcoming them.


134 posted on 06/26/2015 9:23:24 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
This is what Pat Buchanan predicted in one of his books ten years ago. I don't think it'll be in 3 years, but I can see this happening within 30 years. It's either going to become balkanized or will require a ‎totalitarian government to keep these very diverse components together. Actually, going into separate countries would not be that bad if some were based on the constitution. The USA did not always include all of the 50 states it has now.
135 posted on 06/26/2015 9:25:37 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Lazamataz
We are so screwed.

You mean: "We are so sodomized."

136 posted on 06/26/2015 9:38:58 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
Yours is a reasonable interpretation, particularly considering that this is the last chapter of the book of Joel, who was a contemporary prophet to Amos, the book which follows.

But both books speak allegorically, so I think there is a double meaning in that this verse may also be directed to the righteous Gentiles, which are us, commanding us to come to the defense of Jerusalem. It was, after all, mostly the righteous Gentiles which saved the Jewish race from extinction.

137 posted on 06/26/2015 10:00:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, I don’t think they will be content just to remove tax-exempt status (even if “the power to tax is the power to destroy,” and the government will find itself acquiring a lot of prime real estate). They will launch lawsuits designed to destroy the non-compliant churches with exorbitant penalties, like they have already done to businesses.


138 posted on 06/26/2015 11:07:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MomwithHope
You are right the evil militant sodomites will not stop until they have shut churches down or are forced to wed them. I hope Pope Francis makes a strong statement about this.

I hope Franklin Graham does too.

139 posted on 06/26/2015 11:21:14 AM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: Lazamataz
>>>The only solution is for churches to announce they no longer perform marriage ceremonies.

And this is exactly the course I have been advocating to my church...and as of yesterday...I am out of the marriage license biz. Here is a piece of what I posted on my Facebook page yesterday:

So, here is my response: As of today, I will NO LONGER be performing legal marriage ceremonies where I sign the marriage license. I will still perform civil ceremonies involving a man and a woman, but if you want an actual signed marriage license...you will have to have a JP sign it....as I won't. I will not sign a marriage license for a man and a woman...a man and a man...or a woman and a woman.

Marriage has always been and always will be God's design for our lives. I will not cheapen it by throwing away my Bible and embracing culture. If you wish to stand before family and friends, in a church or in a park or in your home...I will officiate and marry you in the eyes of God. However, if you want that legally binding...you will now have to ask the state. I'm not your guy for that any longer.

140 posted on 06/27/2015 5:39:01 AM PDT by NELSON111
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