[Jim from C-Town]

Care to point out the words abortion, marriage or even right to Privacy in the Constitution?

The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact. It seems however that you look at it as the only ‘marriage’ that can’t end in divorce.

At some point there will be a divorce, hostile or otherwise.

[ClearCase_guy]

I think the idea is that the Constitution is a social contract created by We The People. And the government has thoroughly violated that social contract. As far as I'm concerned (as a member of We The People), the Constitution is null and void.

The notion that secession MIGHT be permissible IF it could be done somehow within the limits of the Constitution is specious. The Constitution doesn't cover the matter. At all. And with the government now openly ignoring any and all limits required by the Constitution, that game is over.

We can freely secede in any manner we like. It all comes down to Might Makes Right. If the federal government comes crashing down on us to impose tyranny and stop secession, then that is the way it goes -- we've been there before.

But the notion that secession is in any way "illegal" or "improper" or "unconstitutional" is just silly.

We do not have a social contract. We have a game of Power.

[central_va]

Appealingly you do not know my reputation around here.