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To: for-q-clinton

I just said that Jefferson disagreed with you calling to make marriage in America purely religious, and his America was long before this non-religious America.

It seems like you are way off base with this sneaky anti-Christian libertarian effort to get Christians out of the public marriage fight.

From THE COLONIAL FAMILY IN AMERICA
“While we think of the early New England settlers as very religious, they actually viewed marriage as a civil contract, not a religious contract. Consequently, marriage was a function of the magistrates more than the clergy.”

From LEGISLATIVE GUIDE TO MARRIAGE LAW Iowa.gov
“They (Puritans founders of Massachusetts) believed that marriage was not a religious ceremony but a civil contract. They required that this covenant must be “agreed” or “executed” (not “performed” or “solemnized”) before a magistrate, and not a minister. They also insisted that if the terms of the marriage covenant were broken, then the union could be ended by divorce. These attitudes became the basis of regional marriage customs throughout New England.”


46 posted on 06/29/2015 11:41:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: ansel12

No the problem is the public marriage is now bastardized and you can’t win it anytime soon. So you can keep trying to fight the same fight and keep losing or change the argument. Get gov’t out of our lives and then religion can do what it wants without gov’t regulating their religion. If not, enjoy having your church used as a wedding chapel for gays, polyamorous, and other various Sodom and Gomorrah type people.


47 posted on 06/29/2015 1:28:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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