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Ted Cruz Sets Record Straight with Karl Rove
TedCruz.org ^ | 06/28/15

Posted on 06/29/2015 6:21:47 AM PDT by Isara

A Time For Truth Isn’t Just The Name Of Sen. Cruz’s New Book

Rove Today: “When Mr. Cruz and I talked in 2009, I was not raising money for the Bush Library, nor was former President Bush 43 going to endorse some unnamed Dallas state representative for state attorney general, nor were any library donors “berating” me.”

Rove in 2009: “[T]he distress you mention is not mine or 43 — it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.”

HOUSTON, Texas – The presidential campaign of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, today released the following statement from Sen. Cruz and earlier emails between Cruz and Karl Rove setting the record straight regarding Rove’s blatantly false recap of their 2009 conversations (as posted here on medium.com).

Sen. Cruz:

“I have known Karl Rove for a long time, and have considered him a friend. I understood that my recounting in my book A Time for Truth the threats he made in the 2009 Texas Attorney General race—and the disparaging remarks he made about President George H.W. Bush—would cause him some discomfort.

“But I never imagined that his response would be a straight-out falsehood. It’s disappointing; this is why people are so cynical about politics, because too many people are willing to lie.

“No part of our 2009 conversation concerned my good friend Greg Abbott.

“Below is email correspondence, contemporaneous from that week, demonstrating the veracity of my account. Karl admits, in writing, that his concern was for “the people raising money for the library who are also [then Texas Rep. Dan] Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.”

2009 Email Correspondence:

From: Karl Rove <email address redacted>
To: Ted Cruz <email address redacted>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Follow-up from today

thanks — I appreciate your doing what you can to keep this down — the distress you mention is not mine or 43 — it is the people raising money for the library who are also Branch fans and will not understand why one part of the Bush family is for not-the-guy while they are raising money big bucks for library.

Thanks too for clarifying that you asked to visit with 41; be as nonchulant as possible about the gift and we’ll muddle through

On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Ted Cruz wrote:

Karl,

I am very sorry if I have done anything to distress you or President Bush 43 in any way.

Over the past several years, you’ve been extraordinarily generous in providing advice and insight re the AG campaign, and I have endeavored to follow your wise counsel to the letter. When we last spoke in January, you advised that the best way to convince Branch not to run was to bring aboard as many “old bulls” across the state as possible, so that the rest of the state would counteract his natural base in Highland Park. Since then, I’ve spent 18 hours a day doing nothing but working to follow that course of action, and we’ve been fortunate to enjoy significant success.

None of that matters, though. I got my start in politics (such as it was) working for you and for President Bush 43, and I’ve spent much of my adult life working to support the President. The last thing I would ever want to do is place either of you in a difficult situation.

When I asked to visit with President Bush 41, and he very kindly agreed, I imagined that we would spend maybe 20 minutes talking about the race, he would give his insights on Texas politics, and that would be it. I could not have been more astonished when he offered his support and gave me a personal check for the campaign.

Obviously, I recognize that President Bush 41’s support is a very big deal, and inded I had been in discussions with his office about our issuing a press release about the endorsement. Given the concerns you expressed this afternoon, I have told 41’s office that we will skip the press release altogether (see below).

His support will of course attract attention (much of which will be beyond my control), but I will very much follow your counsel to downplay the support and not highlight it in any way.

My hope is that this race will ultimately end up in a win-win scenario, that Dan will choose to run for the new Dallas congressional seat that will be drawn in 2012 and that he and I can work together as friends and allies for a long time. I know that a number of key donors have been urging precisely that course of action, which, if Dan were to choose to follow, would perhaps alleviate some of the concerns we discussed.

I know that it doesn’t rise to the importance of what you have been doing these past eight years, but I do think there is a real need right now for new leadership in the Republican Party, and I am hopeful that this campaign can play at least some role in helping provide that leadership. Your legacy and President Bush 43’s legacy, and especially the enormous progress y’all made in the Hispanic community, are too important not to keep pressing ahead.

Karl, you’ve been a friend and mentor a long time, and I value that friendship immensely. Please let me know anything I can possibly do to address your and President Bush 43’s concerns.

Thanks so much.

Ted.

—– Forwarded Message —-
From: Ted Cruz <email address redacted>
To: President George H.W. Bush’s assistant <email address redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:19:00 PM
Subject: Discretion being the better part of valor

Jean,

I spoke with Karl this afternoon, and he expressed real concerns that our drawing attention to President Bush 41’s very kind support of the campaign would put President Bush 43 in a difficult position. The last thing I want to do is cause any trouble, so it’s probably wiser just to forego this press release.

So, unless you disagree, I think it probably makes sense simply to include 41 on our overall list of donors, but not to do any separate release or anything highlighting his support, for which I remain deeply, deeply grateful.

Thanks so much,

Ted.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; karlrove; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 06/29/2015 6:21:47 AM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara

2 posted on 06/29/2015 6:28:15 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Isara

Rove is soooooo Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y!

His credibility is shot through and through. He’s now but a bagman for financial interests of the Bush clan and their network.

He needs to join OJ, Obama and Boehner on the golf course and stay there.


3 posted on 06/29/2015 6:29:36 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Isara

Wait, what, someone has emails they actually kept?

Note to Ms. Rodham - this is how public servants should handle business - keep your records and lay them on the table without being asked.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 6:30:33 AM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Isara
Rove, you magnificent bastard!

CC

5 posted on 06/29/2015 6:34:57 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: Isara

Like the Bishop in the game of chess, Karl Rove moves in oblique ways, sometimes not always to the advantage of the player on that side of the board. While the mission is always to protect the King, sometimes the Bishop is sent to deal harshly with the opposing Knight, only to be exposed to a whole chain of events that eventually result in a checkmate.

But I am only an observer of the game, not a serious player, and I would not attempt this strategy, as I can rarely get much past that move.


6 posted on 06/29/2015 6:35:46 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Isara

Don’t trust Rove. Wish he’d move on.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 6:40:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: BlueNgold
Bush White House email controversy
8 posted on 06/29/2015 6:40:51 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Hostage
"Rove is soooooo Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y!"

He can't be! Hannity still calls him "the architect!" /S

9 posted on 06/29/2015 6:47:15 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( ((("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))))
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To: Isara

It would appear that Rove should have just sucked it up and kept his mouth shut.


10 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:44 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: struggle

Shhh be vewwwy vewwwy qwiet. He’s hunting wepbubwiccans.


11 posted on 06/29/2015 7:55:25 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionally blank.)
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To: Isara

The bigger surprise is that Cruz is beholden to the Bushes and that’s to be expected in Texas politics. I think we’ll find that there’s a lot of incestuousness in politics as it’s impossible to be elected otherwise.


12 posted on 06/29/2015 7:55:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: struggle

Karl Rove’s a low life liar? Here’s my shocked face :-O


13 posted on 06/29/2015 7:55:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Isara
Rove had better go work for Hilary Rodham. They can both like effortlessly, have no shame and have no principles.
14 posted on 06/29/2015 7:56:18 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 1010RD
The bigger surprise is that Cruz is beholden to the Bushes and that’s to be expected in Texas politics. I think we’ll find that there’s a lot of incestuousness in politics as it’s impossible to be elected otherwise.

Please show how Cruz is "beholden to the Bushes" or that he has acted on your false accusation.

Please show how Cruz shows ANY "incestuousness in politics" by his actions.
15 posted on 06/29/2015 9:48:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Isara; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; aposiopetic; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

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    CRUZ or LOSE!

16 posted on 06/29/2015 9:49:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
I like Cruz and it doesn't bother me that he is beholden to the Bushes as it's impossible in politics to not have a patron. That said, your own post via Sen. Cruz's own email.

Karl, you’ve been a friend and mentor a long time, and I value that friendship immensely. Please let me know anything I can possibly do to address your and President Bush 43’s concerns.

Thanks so much.

Ted.

17 posted on 06/29/2015 10:01:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BlueNgold

How refreshing.

Yes indeed, this is how the people’s business should be conducted.


18 posted on 06/29/2015 10:47:07 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: 1010RD
like Cruz and it doesn't bother me that he is beholden to the Bushes as it's impossible in politics to not have a patron.

You state as fact that he is somehow "beholden" to the Bushes.

A more accurate and objective response would be either that he COULD be "beholden" or there is a temptation to be "beholden" to the Bushes.

That being said, just because you get a political donation and/or an endorsement does not mean you are automatically "beholden" to the one donating/endorsing.

That is entirely up to the character of the politician (or Statesman where Cruz is concerned) accepting the donation/endorsement.
19 posted on 06/29/2015 11:17:52 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 1010RD
Karl, you’ve been a friend and mentor a long time, and I value that friendship immensely. Please let me know anything I can possibly do to address your and President Bush 43’s concerns.

Which does nothing to imply that Ted Cruz was willing to do anything with respect to policy or governance if he was in office or even during his campaign that would violate his stated policies and his principles.

Be careful how you phrase things as it leave you open to accusations that you are accusing Ted Cruz of playing a "you scratch my back and I will scratch your back" political game.
20 posted on 06/29/2015 11:20:08 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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