Posted on 06/29/2015 12:13:43 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: I want to throw something out. I'm not gonna have to time to analyze this, but I did reference it. Already on Sunday in the New York Times and even on Saturday there were stories about, "Oh, no! You know, now that we've won, gosh, it doesn't feel that good. Wow, you know what? I just don't like not being a member of the oppressed. I don't like it. I don't like not being an activist."
I've got some audio sound bite. Jodi Kantor is a New York Times writer, and during a discussion about the decision with Gayle King on CBS she said, "You write, 'Just as the gay marriage movement peaks, so does the debate over whether gay rights are a success.' You say this is 'a bittersweet win' for gay Americans." Now, folks, this is important. I don't want you to just cast this aside and say, "I'm not interested," because that's what this is all about.
The quest for happiness, normalcy, self-esteem, dignity, that's what this is really all about among the rank-and-file. Not the leadership. They have something else totally in mind. But just the neighborhood gay couple that lives down the street from you, it's all about happiness, a quest for normalcy. It's just, "I want to do that. They do it; I want to. Let me do it, too!" Okay, you can. The Constitution says so. Here's Jodi Kantor explaining why this is a bittersweet moment...
KANTOR: Even at the gay pride parade yesterday the chant in the crowd was, "What do we want? Marriage equality. When do we want it? We got it yesterday!"
WOMEN: (chortling)
KANTOR: And so that changes things, right? So much of gay identity and culture is born of persecution, born of stigma, born of this terrible treatment. How do things change now that gay marriage is really just marriage? Even language that we're used to, like, "Coming out of the closet" may not apply anymore. I spoke to a lot of young people who said that they were never in a closet. One young woman said... I said, "Well, how long did you go from when you realized you were gay until when you told people?" She said, "Twelve hours."
RUSH: "So much of gay identity and cultural is born of persecution, born of stigma, born of this terrible treatment; now what do we do?" Oh, no!" And there's more, folks. Sit tight. I wish... I gotta take a break here. I can't avoid it. But we'll continue after this.
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RUSH: Now, continuing in the same vein, I just played that sound bite from Jodi Kantor of the New York Times, who said that on Sunday during the gay pride marches and so forth that so much of gay identity and culture is born of persecution, born of stigma, born of this terrible treatment. It's exactly what I'm talking about. They look at the majority. "The majority has marriage and we don't, and it's not fair, and they're keeping it from us 'cause it's really, really cool.
"It's really cool, all these benefits and hospital visits and whatever they tell themselves it is that's being denied, they want it, they demand it. That's not why they're unhappy, though, but they think it is so they quest it and make out battle plans to get it. And they do get it in many cases such as they have now. And now a new unhappiness has been born, and that is, "Well, we liked being persecuted. We had an identity there. We had an identity of being persecuted. We had an identity being stigmatized. All this terrible treatment, that's what unified us. That's what gave us our identity. And now, well, there isn't any of that anymore. We can get married. We're no longer being isolated!" She's... Here. There's a second companion sound bite to this. Norah O'Donnell on CBS said (this was just this morning), "Look, there's still a stigma, though, for some gay Americans. I mean, it's not all solved here. Doesn't that still have an effect?"
So now they're actively seeking to be stigmatized. So here you have Jodi Kantor telling CBS (summarized), "Oh, my God, you know what? So much of gay identical and culture and born of persecution and stigma and this terrible treatment, and now that's gone!" And a reporter says, "Wait a minute. There's still some of that, isn't there? Oh, God, there's gotta be some! Isn't there still some stigma? Isn't there still...? Come on, Jodi!"
KANTOR: Absolutely. And there's a call now by the organized gay community to essentially fight housing discrimination, job discrimination, as the next big barrier. But I think we will see the culture change. Gay people for so long were almost forced to form their own community.
RUSH: Now they don't have to. They are a part of the community of marriage. But they've gotta... That's not gonna be good. They're not gonna be happy being part of it. So now they've gotta fight unfair housing and they've gotta fight unfair discrimination, job discrimination. So they're gonna go after employers the way they went after marriage. They're not through, by the way, 'cause they still have to go after the churches. Headline New York Times. Second story:
"Historic Day for Gays, But Twinge of Loss for an Outsider Culture -- From Capitol Hill in Seattle to Dupont Circle in Washington, gay bars and nightclubs have turned into vitamin stores, frozen yogurt shops and memories. Some of those that remain are filled increasingly with straight patrons, while many former customers say their social lives now revolve around preschools and playgrounds. ... The Supreme Court on Friday expanded same-sex marriage rights across the country, a crowning achievement but," but wait for it: "also a confounding challenge to a group that has often prided itself on being different.
"The more victories that accumulate for gay rights, the faster some gay institutions, rituals and markers are fading out. And so just as the gay marriage movement peaks, so does a debate about whether gay identity is dimming, overtaken by its own success." This was yesterday, the New York Times. I have to tell you, I read this, and there was a part of me that wasn't surprised because I've... I haven't offered it much on this program, the things I'm sharing with you today about the real quest behind this misery and unhappiness now is never gonna be realized and satisfied.
I've had this belief for can't tell you how long. So they got what they want. It's never enough. And, "Oh, my God, you mean we're not different we're not stigmatized? Aw, jeez!" Here's "John Waters, the film director and patron saint of the American marginal," meaning fringe people. He "warned graduates to heed the shift in a recent commencement speech at the Rhode Island School of Design. 'Refuse to isolate yourself. Separatism is for losers,' he said, adding, 'Gay is not enough anymore.'"
You need to find other ways now to separate and isolate yourself.
"'What do gay men have in common when they don't have oppression?' asked Andrew Sullivan, one of the intellectual architects of the marriage movement. 'I don’t know the answer to that yet.'" What? "What do gay men have in common if they don't have oppression?" You know the old adage: "The last thing the Reverend Jackson and Reverend Sharpton want is an end to racism. What would they do? There be no reason for their business. It sounds like we're getting much the same thing here.
"'What do gay men have in common when they don't have oppression? ... I don't know the answer to that yet.' ... No one is arguing that prejudice has come close to disappearing, especially outside major American cities, as waves of hate crimes, suicides by gay teenagers and workplace discrimination attest. Far from everyone agrees that marriage rights are the apotheosis of liberation.
"But even many who raced to the altar say they feel loss amid the celebrations, a bittersweet sense that there was something valuable about the creativity and grit with which gay people responded to stigma and persecution." Get this: "'The thing I miss is the specialness of being gay,' said Lisa Kron, who wrote the book and lyrics for 'Fun Home,' a Broadway musical... 'Because the traditional paths were closed, there was a consciousness to our lives, a necessary invention to the way we were going to celebrate and mark family and mark connection. That felt magical and beautiful."
But "The thing I miss is the specialness of being gay."
This is what passes for victory and celebration, folks, in this aspect of the left.
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RUSH: Don't tell me that after all of this that we are destroying the gay community, or rather the Supreme Court is. Don't tell me. I mean, "Historic Day for Gays, but Twinge of Loss for an Outsider Culture"? I did not make up these quotes. "The thing I miss is the specialness of being gay. There's something wonderful about being part of an oppressed community." I thought you were mad being oppressed! Wow, did I misread it. I thought you were mad being oppressed and you didn't like being oppressed and didn't like being outsiders.
I thought you wanted to be included and happy! "It turns out there's something wonderful in being part of an oppressed community." Yeah, we had a unique identity, and now that we can get married, there's nothing special about us. (I'm telling you...) I don't want to wag my finger here, but this unhappiness, this oppression, whatever they want to call this? The solution to their misery and unhappiness is not found, will never be found in either corrupting or taking over all of these institutions in the quote/unquote majority.
It's not gonna give them what they're looking for. Any member of a minority, I'm not talking about just gay marriage. I'm talking anybody that's miserably unhappy politically. Getting even with the other guys is not gonna solve a thing. It's no different than typical Democrat trick of going to the little guy and saying, "You know what? We're gonna really make things better for you."
"Really? How?"
"We're gonna raise taxes on the rich!"
"Oh, good. Wow, that's gonna be great. Wait a minute, how does that help me?"
"Well, we're punishing those people for you."
"Oh, yeah! Yeah! Okay, you do it! But wait, how does that help me?"
"What do you mean, 'How's it help'?"
"Well, I'm not gonna have an additional dollar in my pocket after you raise their taxes?"
"That's right, but we're gonna get 'em for you."
"Oh, yeah, okay. Well, yeah, you go!"
That's all it is. There's no happiness at the end of it.
Well, Boo-Hoo, cry me a river......
Yes, a sad corollary of this opinion is that homosexuals will now have unlimited access to your children and grandchildren to recruit them into perverted sexual practices. You would not think of banning someone from being a youth pastor or boy scout leader because they were black; it’s blatantly discriminatory. Well, now it will be legally just as discriminatory to ban a homosexual from those positions, too. Even though common sense tells us there is only one reason a homosexual wants to be a Boy Scout leader.
And if you try to protect your family from homosexual predators in these positions of trust over our youth, the homonazis will gleefully sue you into bankruptcy for discrimination.
Maybe Kennedy will be back next June to bestow happiness on them.
But yes you are correct.
The only temporary happiness they get is when they are able to impose themselves on the unwilling.
Well they will need some Civil Rights legislation to get the equivalent of racial protections.
Not that Boner and Turtle boy won’t do it.
I know.
They've suppressed the truth.
Their foolish hearts have become darkened.
They have dishonored their own bodies among themselves.
They exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature.
They commit shameless acts with debased minds.
That's why.
And let's not get too smug either. Many of us live with a false sense of security but we really have hard and impenitent hearts. One Day, God's wrath and righteous judgement will be revealed.
There is a way to have real joy, though. And not fear that Day.
And unlike reparations for slavery, which can never be paid to former slaves since all are long since dead, I’m sure they will find someone who was discriminated against due to homosexuality , lost a job, etc. Who will sue for reparations.
An irony there is that homosexuals, as a group, have higher household incomes than average. And because so few have children, they have more disposable income .
Hit the nail on the head.
Bingo!
The only children they can produce are replicas of Mr. Hankey the Chrismas Poo.
As my Mom always told me, “Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it’’
I think a lot of peoples are going to be surprised at how few homosexuals — particularly men — end up getting married whine all is said and done.
Sorry for the garbled message ... though it does read kind of funny. I am typing on a computer with a very small screen. LOL.
I agree. By the same token, transgenders never get satisfaction from having their "gender" officially changed on government documents.
Gays want the whole world to reaffirm for them, every minute of every day, that they're "perfectly normal". But, that's impossible... so it's a dead-end journey for them all.
[ The Gaystapo has hijacked God’s rainbow. They only need one color: brown. ]
When you add up all colours of LIGHT you get WHITE LIGHT!
When you add up all colours of PIGMENT you get BROWN PIGMENT!
The more things change...
I’m not wishing for it. But one would have to be blind to not see it coming.
Exactly...queers aren’t normal; they’ll NEVER be normal.
They can call themselves anything they like- legal or otherwise- I will NEVER acknowledge same sex ‘wives’ and ‘husbands’. They are Partners in Perversity- nothing more. I consider it the same as an actor playing a character and demanding to be called ‘Batman’ or Lincoln. It’s pretend and I’m not buying into the fantasy. I want to CURE mental illness, not celebrate it.
“I just don’t like not being a member of the oppressed.”
You can always go kick a puppy or sue an 80 year old grandma who won’t bake you a cake. Maybe it will make you feel better.
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