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F-35 beaten in a dogfight by F-16
Daily Mail ^ | 6/30/15 | Imogen Calderwood

Posted on 06/30/2015 11:52:34 AM PDT by Teflonic

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1 posted on 06/30/2015 11:52:34 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Teflonic

It wasn’t beaten by an F16.

It was beaten by a pilot who was better that day.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 11:55:05 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

just swap pilots and try again.


3 posted on 06/30/2015 11:56:17 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Vendome
It was beaten by a pilot who was better that day.

Would be interesting to switch pilots and see if the results are the same.

4 posted on 06/30/2015 11:56:24 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Teflonic

The F-35 is the world’s 1st aircraft to use $100 bills as chaff.


5 posted on 06/30/2015 11:56:32 AM PDT by Flick Lives (“One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast.” -- Heinlein "Friday")
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6 posted on 06/30/2015 11:56:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Teflonic; Jewbacca

They’ve been banking, no pun intended, on BVR for a long, long time now.


7 posted on 06/30/2015 11:58:46 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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Enough irrelevance!

Was either pilot transgender or gay?

8 posted on 06/30/2015 12:00:43 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: Teflonic

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3306046/posts


10 posted on 06/30/2015 12:03:11 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Vendome

Didn’t he fly an F-14 Tomcat?


11 posted on 06/30/2015 12:03:37 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: Teflonic

AND the F-22 routinely smoked multiple F-15’s in the same type simulation.

What is going on?

What happened to F-22?


12 posted on 06/30/2015 12:04:04 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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Uh, were the planes flying by themselves without pilots?


13 posted on 06/30/2015 12:05:45 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: LeonardFMason

The F-22 has thrust vectoring, the F-35 does not.

Truthfully the F-35 isn’t meant to be a dogfighter, and truth be told if you end up in a dogfight in current air to air fights, you’ve messed up.

The F-16 was always known to be extremely maneuverable.


14 posted on 06/30/2015 12:09:53 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Vendome

Excellent point!


15 posted on 06/30/2015 12:11:45 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: CommerceComet

Quibbling....

LOL


16 posted on 06/30/2015 12:14:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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But according to the other thread, the F-35 was unladen while the F-16 was burdened with two external fuel tanks. So it's not just the pilots; the F-16 was heavily disadvantaged in the test and still won. Can you put all of THAT on the F-35 pilot? Was he really that bad of a pilot that he was beaten by a weighed down F-16? If so, why was he selected for the test in the first place? Wouldn't we put our best on a test of a trillion-dollar plane?

What would it have been like if the F-35 were also burdened with the extra weight of armament?

-PJ

17 posted on 06/30/2015 12:14:13 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: spokeshave

I’ve known about this for a bit. In fact since it happened. I’ll give you one guess as to the nationality of the pilot in the F-16. ;-)

And, in fairness, and I say this as a man who has flown F-16s his entire adult life, this is not that “real world” of a test. The F-35 would have shot down the F-16 long before they engaged in an actual dogfight.

It’s like saying “oh no, a guy with a sword and armor can kill my archer in hand-to-hand combat!” Well duh, different roles.

I do think the F-35 is a bit of a camel — that is, a horse made by committee. It tries to do too much. They should have made related, but specialized, planes.


18 posted on 06/30/2015 12:14:16 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: drewh

and Goose is cooked....


19 posted on 06/30/2015 12:14:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: LeonardFMason

“What happened to F-22?”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That, and drones are going to take over.


20 posted on 06/30/2015 12:15:30 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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