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Donald Trump A Trojan Horse To Knock Out All Other Republicans But Jeb Bush?

Posted on 07/03/2015 6:03:04 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: LS
I think that Perot actually got 19%, but that was after his flip flop over running, and a paranoid outburst. My point, however, was that he was much stronger earlier--I believe somewhere between 29 -31%, and really in contention.

I agree with you on your earlier comment about Trump shaking things up. If he continues to punch back, hard, when the press goes into their smear mode, he will provide a tremendous benefit, so far as energizing the gutless.

I also agree with you, here, as to confidence.

As to Cruz on replacing Obamacare, I hope that he will persist. So far as Health Savings Accounts; I agree with you as to the strength of the issue as a talking point; but down the road, we have to find a way to get people--at least those with common sense--into saving. The economy is spinning towards eventual chaos, as the efforts to jerry rig us out of major downturns, become more and more extreme. That we are still trying to fully recover from a 2008 disaster, directly caused by insane over-leveraging in finance, is a warning flag that cannot be forever ignored.

61 posted on 07/03/2015 8:26:02 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ansel12
I do not know whether Perot liked George H. W. Bush, or not. That does not suggest that he was not trying to win. At one point he was within striking distance in the polls, but then shot himself in the foot. (You need to get over the idea that party loyalty is more important than the actual issues.)

With the changing demographics, our best chance in the long-run may be to get away from the two party system. It was Britain's getting away from the two party system, that has enabled the recent Conservative victory--if you look at the vote totals. (Not that the present Tory party would be acceptable to American Conservatives.)

62 posted on 07/03/2015 8:36:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: exit82

“A field of 25-30 candidates on the GOP side is absurd.”

Well, the RATs are doing it too! There are 15 “announced” RAT candidates for President.


63 posted on 07/03/2015 8:42:32 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ohioan

Since I have never belonged to a party, you shot yourself in the foot with your stupid claim, but it shows how you don’t think.

Did you vote for the pro-abortion Ross Perot, who wanted to go door to door in Dallas to confiscate guns?


64 posted on 07/03/2015 8:42:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: exit82

“I doubt that Trump will stay in the race to the end”

He is burning all his bridges.


65 posted on 07/03/2015 8:43:50 AM PDT by odawg
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To: bkepley
In any business, large or small, it is "top down." What do you advocate, some form of anarchy?

The voters do not work for the Government--and few issues are more important to me than disenfranchising those who receive unearned benefits from a level of Government, where their votes can be bought by those unearned benefits.

As for the other branches of Government, that has nothing to do with the question of how the Executive branch is run; nor is Obama a model for anything good. I imagine that he has run into some insubordination, since he has tried to misuse agencies for illegal purposes. There is nothing in his misuse of power that justifies any theory on the correct use of power.

With respect to that, to follow your business analysis, he would be the equivalent of a CEO, that a Board of Directors fires; or whom is sued in a shareholder derivative action for injuring the corporation by misuse of his position.

66 posted on 07/03/2015 8:45:05 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: jimwatx

“siphoning off support from the other conservative candidates”

There are only two other candidates even making a pretense of being conservative - Cruz and Walker.


67 posted on 07/03/2015 8:45:22 AM PDT by odawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“...stupid enough to think he has a chance.”

You say that after Barack Hussein Obama was elected twice?


68 posted on 07/03/2015 8:47:12 AM PDT by odawg
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To: jimwatx

“...he’s trying to beclown the conservatives.”

You make the assertion, which is easy to do, now explain how he is doing that. What has he said that is not true? How is what he saying diminishing conservatives, other than exposing their timidity. Even Rich Lowery at National Review, even Rich Lowery, says he is right about Mexico sending their worst.


69 posted on 07/03/2015 8:52:02 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Ohioan

I didn’t say business should not be run top down, I said gvmnt cannot be as even Obama found out. You must not have read what I wrote. Like I said I don’t think trying to run a democratic republic as a business would be any more successful than trying to run a business as a democratic republic as Perot would have soon discovered.


70 posted on 07/03/2015 8:54:30 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Ben Ficklin

“Trump has never proposed an immigration policy”

Can building a fence be considered part of an an immigration policy? What was the immigration policy of George W. Bush? He was elected twice. Has ANY candidate spelled out even as much as Trump? Which one? And if they haven’t, and they have not, why fault Trump?


71 posted on 07/03/2015 8:55:59 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg
You say that after Barack Hussein Obama was elected twice?

Yes.

72 posted on 07/03/2015 8:58:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: odawg
There are only two other candidates even making a pretense of being conservative - Cruz and Walker.

Well I agree with you there, they are the ONLY 2 I would support anyways, otherwise I might as well sit out this election.

73 posted on 07/03/2015 8:58:26 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Enlightened1

Except in The Donald’s case, it’s a Trojan ass.


74 posted on 07/03/2015 8:58:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SamAdams76

Perot hated George Bush, period. But whatever were his motivations, what makes you think that Trump is a carbon copy of Perot?


75 posted on 07/03/2015 8:59:08 AM PDT by odawg
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To: knarf

And the news media ( who read from scripts , or have an earpiece telling them what to say) are befuddled by a non teleprompter, prepared script straight talker, often blusterous, but in language the average person can understand.

They think he’s a fad. But it may be that the Dinosaur media, all of them
are underestimating how fed up we are with PC, watered down candidates

I don’t include Cruz in that group by the way...


76 posted on 07/03/2015 8:59:09 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: bkepley

You are confusing what the purpose of an American Government is. It is not running the now 50 Republics, or their people. It has (the Federal Government) certain specific functions. Carrying out those functions, is what needs to be done in a businesslike manner. If it usurps power and tries to actually run the American people, whether democratically or from the top down; we have lost our heritage. Its duty is to serve the limited purposes entrusted to it; not to control anyone, in any way outside those functions.


77 posted on 07/03/2015 9:00:49 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ClearCase_guy

You and I are of like mind.

Nice post


78 posted on 07/03/2015 9:02:47 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Nextrush
If Trump is a disruptor, sent by someone, he's doing a lot of damage to the country by pissing off the two big investors in the coup ... China and Mexico

People accusing Trump might as well say he's a muslim and is practicing taquia

79 posted on 07/03/2015 9:04:15 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Enlightened1

No. If anything he adds to conservatives by taking on things that other candidates (besides Cruz) refuse to talk about. He’s making smooshes like Bush look weak. I know, not hard to to but Bush has name recognition, elite money and favorable press.


80 posted on 07/03/2015 9:05:19 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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