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HOW DOES GOD VIEW THE DAUGHTER OF BABYLON?
The End of America ^ | Sept. 2013 | John Price

Posted on 07/07/2015 10:45:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: reed13k

Very possible!


61 posted on 07/07/2015 4:52:29 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Arnold Fructenbaum’s book, “Footsteps of the Messiah” spends significant time discussing the absence of the USA from scripture. It is definitely ominous.


62 posted on 07/07/2015 4:53:33 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Boogieman
I can tell you have studied the scriptures. Bravo! Jerusalem is indeed spiritual Sodom and Egypt. You can see this by the compromise, worldliness, and Sodomite Pride Parades.

I could be wrong, but I think Babylon is distinct from Jerusalem (Sodom & Egypt). Rome was certainly "spiritual Babylon" at the time of Peter's epistle, however today it is less relevant (although this Pope is trying to make it relevant).

Zechariah 5 may be the clue to understanding the Isaiah and Jeremiah scriptures about Babylon the Great (located in Shinar). I expect to see a new world currency and ecumenical religion rise very soon outside of Rome, Jerusalem, and Mecca. As long as all currency is based on oil trade, it will be a Petro-(something) digital currency.
63 posted on 07/07/2015 5:05:29 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: CynicalBear

“woman who rides the beast”.......

I was recently reading about that and took note that she is quite “comfortable” riding the beast.....which also indicates the possibility she has the upper hand of control.


64 posted on 07/07/2015 9:31:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Boogieman

The new world currency isn’t here but there is already a unifying system that has darn near the whole world synchronized..

And it is named after a Roman Pope. (if it was named after Muhammad or Obama it may get someone’s attention)

The world major religions, governments (including UN), and economies/businesses, all set their work and worship schedules on a Roman calendar named after Pope gregory- seems harmless.

Daniel 7 speaks of times and laws changing and some scholars see daniel 7 and Revelation 13 linked.

When one digs into Revelation 13, some interesting imagery appears.

Worship the beast/dragon, worship the image, blaspheme the name.
Those right there are His first 3 Commandments being broken (non Roman Catholic version)

The enemy attacks the worship of the Father and causes the world to. How best to do that?

A little digging goes into it, but another Commandment is also attacked- remember the Sabbath( His Sabbath was a sign of His people- people who obeyed His Commandments- a sign on their forehead and hand)

The first four of His 10 Commandmemts that deal with worship are under assault by the enemy.

If today is Woden’s Day ( some false God) to the world, the enemy is already at work and has been.

And it isn’t an accident that Rome seems to have a different numbering system of the Commandments..

People can know what day it is on the Father’s calendar but they would first have to reject what the world accepts.
And His calendar numbers days
And if people followed the calendar in scripture, they would see clearly how times and laws have been changed and how the enemy can ascend to the mount of congregation and be like the Most High (Isaiah 14:13-15)- and all it took was messing with the calendar..

Follow the calendar in scripture long enough and one realizes neither Saturday or Sunday is Holy every week.
And then one can realize how Satan can deceive the whole world like it says he does and how ‘worship’ and stealing worship is central to his plan. How?
Tell people it’s Woden’s day and not His 6th day..
Tell people tomorrow is Thor’s day and not His Sabbath Day.

People may not truly realize how much of His Mercy and Grace is needed when they don’t realize just how much Satan causes them to ‘sin’ out of ignorance.
Just simply by conforming to Rome’s calendar which is the world’s calendar.

This is not something people would want to examine if they aren’t prepared to have their worldview turned upside down..


65 posted on 07/08/2015 6:45:06 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: caww
>>I was recently reading about that and took note that she is quite “comfortable” riding the beast.....which also indicates the possibility she has the upper hand of control.<<

The power that the pope held during the dark ages is just a beginning to understanding the influence Catholicism has had over kings and rulers. With pope Francis once again influencing "kings and rulers" with his work towards a one world government and a one world religion by bringing all religions together it's ominous.

66 posted on 07/08/2015 10:05:13 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: delchiante; Jan_Sobieski; Boogieman
>>A little digging goes into it, but another Commandment is also attacked- remember the Sabbath<<

Romans 14:5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. 7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.

It's really time you take you Old Testament law somewhere else. Christ established a new covenant and your old covenant laws don't save anyone.

67 posted on 07/08/2015 10:13:18 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; Jan_Sobieski; Boogieman

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Here is the patience of the Saints. Those who KEEP the Commandments of God And the faith of Joshua.

You have a right to believe the 10 Commandments are done away with. I see where Satan attacks them to.

And I said nothing about salvation.

I talked about Satan’s goals and plans.
And he is using Rome to accomplish it.

My question on salvation would be does faith in Rome’s Jesus save?

That would seem like an odd question to most but I believe you have been on record cynical in discussions with me that they DO have another Jesus-


68 posted on 07/08/2015 11:04:27 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

I told you to take it somewhere else. I won’t dialogue with you.


69 posted on 07/08/2015 11:13:05 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: delchiante
I agree. Rome has a socialist, redistributionist Jesus...a Jesus whose once and for all sacrifice on the cross was not sufficient for salvation, so he must die every day in the Eucharist. Rome has a Jesus that must be consumed for a small dispersement of temporary grace.

Needless to say, this is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.
70 posted on 07/08/2015 11:48:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

If there is only one jesus, that is the scary thing.

I didn’t see it until I saw Rome has been in the business of creating one.. One that fits rome’s calendar and rome’s catechism and not His calendar in His Word.


71 posted on 07/08/2015 11:58:40 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: CynicalBear

You need not dialogue. I didn’t post originally to you anyway

My post set a different premise on Rome than is debated on the forum and it goes farther than you are willing to go.

The question I posed is an honest one from that premise and you refused to answer.

You are free to ignore this message.


72 posted on 07/08/2015 12:13:49 PM PDT by delchiante
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