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Do Christians Even Have a Chance Against Oregon’s Bureaucracy?
National Review ^ | 07/08/2015 | David French

Posted on 07/08/2015 4:46:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: christians; gaymarriage; oregon
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RE: Do Christians Even Have a Chance Against Oregon’s Bureaucracy?

No because there is not enough mass outrage shown in that state from fellow Christians.

Just watch how it's done had it happened to a Muslim baker...

1 posted on 07/08/2015 4:46:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That is why it is best for them to leave that state.


2 posted on 07/08/2015 4:48:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

An outrage.


3 posted on 07/08/2015 4:48:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Biggirl

RE: That is why it is best for them to leave that state.

There are not many states to move to then (except maybe Texas ). New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa, etc. you name it... there are lawsuits against Christian photographers, florists and lodge owners by gay couples.

And now with the whole thing federalized by 5 justices and an unsympathetic White House, I don’t think there’s anywhere else to move to....

The only solution as I see it is for devout Christians to show UNITY. STAND AND FIGHT.

But where is this unity?

There is no equivalent of a NAACP or CAIR at all...


4 posted on 07/08/2015 4:52:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I still say move because there will be less hostle issues. I stand on my position.


5 posted on 07/08/2015 4:53:48 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

there is no Christian organization

all have been co opted by the left


6 posted on 07/08/2015 4:54:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes they do, because, according to the article, the BOLI group has no power of law.

If I were the Klein’s, I would ignore the BOLI blathering and talk freely.


7 posted on 07/08/2015 4:57:16 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

Look at the platform they’ve been given. Imagine the joy the disciples and the Apostle Paul would have written about if they had been given a chance to be on national television and share the gospel of Christ.


8 posted on 07/08/2015 4:58:05 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have doctors in OR been forced to perform abortions against their religious beliefs?


9 posted on 07/08/2015 4:58:41 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: Biggirl; SeekAndFind

And, since, per the article, the BOLI group has no power of law, I also would move (to Texas).


10 posted on 07/08/2015 4:59:33 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

David French is one of my favorite columnists now.


11 posted on 07/08/2015 4:59:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Be proud you're a Rebel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oregon Constitution

Article I - Bill of Rights

Section 2. Freedom of worship. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.—

Section 3. Freedom of religious opinion. No law shall in any case whatever control the free exercise, and enjoyment of religeous [sic] opinions, or interfere with the rights of conscience.—

Section 8. Freedom of speech and press. No law shall be passed restraining the free expression of opinion, or restricting the right to speak, write, or print freely on any subject whatever; but every person shall be responsible for the abuse of this right.—


12 posted on 07/08/2015 5:02:34 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oregon, on of the left coast


13 posted on 07/08/2015 5:04:53 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: SeekAndFind

All things are possible with God.


14 posted on 07/08/2015 5:21:35 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: WildHighlander57

I’d do the same. If they come after me I hooked it’s a violation of my first amendment rights.


15 posted on 07/08/2015 5:22:50 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as liberal professors now find themselves under attack by their students for perceived microagression, so too will bureaucracies soon find themselves defending themselves against discrimination.

This POS bureaucrat should himself be charged with “substantial evidence of unlawful discrimination” against Christians, depriving the couple of their civil rights and violating the 1st, 7th and 8th Amendments.

Next, there has to be more Bundy Ranch showdowns. Peaceful, of course. Let the bureaucracy try to enforce their ruling.

But running away, no! Where could you run to?


16 posted on 07/08/2015 5:23:22 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: SeekAndFind
Avakian speaks as a politician while exercising the power of a judge.

While judges act with the power of both judge and politician. The implicit, "It would be more fairer before a judge," is not true.

17 posted on 07/08/2015 5:26:14 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is an open-and-shut Federal constitutional case, and, if appealed, I expect them to win easily.


18 posted on 07/08/2015 5:26:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I were them I would cash out every thing I owned pile all the money in a big pile and publicly burn it, then go sign up for welfare, before I let those dykes or the court ever see one red cent...(maybe not the most Christian sentiment, but heck I’m a backslid baptist...)


19 posted on 07/08/2015 5:32:22 AM PDT by apillar
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To: ealgeone

This DEFINITELY deserves repeating:

“All things are possible with God.”

“And he could there do no mighty work. . . because of their unbelief’ (Mk. 6:5-6).


20 posted on 07/08/2015 5:47:33 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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