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Trump: I Don't Think I've Ever Asked God for Forgiveness
7/19/2015 ^
| Todd Beamon
Posted on 07/20/2015 12:02:47 PM PDT by Kevin C
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To: FredZarguna
I can't tell you how many times in my childhood I was told by people in religious orders that I was going to hell. Ah, the anecdote avalanche. The solipsist special.
I attended 16 years of Catholic school and was never once told that I was going to hell.
That's probably because it is flatly contrary to Church doctrine to say that.
Answer: because you're full of baloney.
Uh-huh.
I'll just say that your tales seem highly implausible to me.
Every child physically and psychologically tortured by nuns and remonstrated without mercy by priests knows exactly what I'm talking about.
The problem is, those children only exist in Hollywood movies.
You seem to have an enormous chip on your shoulder, FZ.
Maybe it seems that way because I'm controlled by an overpowering sense of guilt that I'm unaware of, right?
Your claimed personal experiences are universal, correct?
To: Georgia Girl 2
I understand that in Oprahland one must never question how someone else represents himself.
What I am questioning is the definition of Christianity - specifically what kind of Christianity involves never asking the Almighty for forgiveness?
Is there even such a thing as sin? If it exists, what is it?
To: Georgia Girl 2
Donald Trumps relationship with God is his own business as is yours and mine. So get off the I know whos a Christian soapbox.
Sorry, but his relationship with God is my business if he want's to be my POTUS.
I won't vote for either an atheist or a Muslim, or even a Buddhist exactly because of their relationship (or lack thereof) with God.
As far as "So get off the I know who's a Christian soapbox" I'm just using the Bible as a measure of who is or who is not a Christian.
The Bible makes it very clear that those who are not forgiven, will not make heaven and being forgiven means you have to ask for that forgiveness.
You're still being a fan-boy and you are still sacrificing your Christian principles to support your preferred POTUS candidate.
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posted on
07/20/2015 3:06:20 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: Kevin C
The Lord’s Prayer covers it. All Christian services receit don’t they?
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posted on
07/20/2015 3:17:51 PM PDT
by
Eddie01
(Liberal's lie about everything all the time)
To: SoConPubbie
I’m going to pray for you tonight. :-)
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posted on
07/20/2015 3:32:03 PM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: wideawake
Well Reverend and Grand Poobah of Christianity I and the rest of the committed Christians on this forum will leave you to your rants. :-)
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posted on
07/20/2015 3:37:08 PM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: tioga
Hey...Trump acknowledges God, knows he’s made mistakes, tries to make them right which is also a form of repentance not just atonement...and acknowledges he’s not the most religious guy in the world. A real world self honest person...how refreshing...! I’ll vote for such a person in a second!
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posted on
07/20/2015 3:45:44 PM PDT
by
mdmathis6
(No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
To: Georgia Girl 2
Im going to pray for you tonight. :-)
And I will do the same for you my FRiend.
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posted on
07/20/2015 4:15:36 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: tioga
Hey...Trump acknowledges God, knows he’s made mistakes, tries to make them right which is also a form of repentance not just atonement...and acknowledges he’s not the most religious guy in the world. A real world self honest person...how refreshing...! I’ll vote for such a person in a second!
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posted on
07/20/2015 4:31:05 PM PDT
by
mdmathis6
(No white, no black,no slave or free,just washed in the red that Messiah bled!)
To: Tucker39
I made a MAJOR senior moment boo-boo. It’s FIRST Corinthians 11. Not 2nd. My bad.
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posted on
07/20/2015 4:36:57 PM PDT
by
Tucker39
(Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
To: Georgia Girl 2
What makes a question a “rant”?
To: Kevin C
So given that what the above say is accurate, Trump is not really a Christian. He goes through the motions but has no faith??? This is not good for Trump.
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posted on
07/20/2015 7:03:11 PM PDT
by
ColdSteelTalon
(Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
To: Hot Tabasco
I said he’s in need of counseling...I didn’t pass judgement on his fitness for office. You need to polish your reading comprehension skills before you take it upon yourself to presume another’s motives.
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posted on
07/21/2015 5:38:51 AM PDT
by
pgkdan
(But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: Kevin C
This thread is a case study on why we’re in the incredible mess we’re in.
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posted on
07/21/2015 5:49:19 AM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(McCain was a war hero? So was Benedict Arnold.)
To: Hot Tabasco
It was Trump’s claim, not mine. He is the one that said he is a devout follower. Unfortunately for him, genuine people can tell the difference.
This isn’t just for religion, it can be for anything. If someone says they love spicy food, but can’t handle medium salsa, I question their claim. If someone says they are from the south, but only drink unsweetened tea, I question their claim.
When someone says they are a Christian, but have never asked God for forgiveness (kinda foundational for that religion), yes, I question their claim.
To: DannyTN
It does sound like he needs to work on his relationship with God and understand the role of forgiveness better. Is it a concern? Yes. It could impact his role model. It could impact a number of things. Is it a deal killer? No.Agreed. He's running for president, not pope.
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posted on
08/01/2015 1:09:50 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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