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Video of Sandra Bland's arrest ignites firestorm of reactions (Video at link)
CNN.com ^ | July 22, 2015 | Holly Yan and Dana Ford

Posted on 07/22/2015 8:09:54 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

A lit cigarette is a potential danger to an officer’s safety.

If an officer doesn’t want a person who he is investigating to be next to him while holding a burning object, then he can order that person to extinguish the burning object, thus rendering it a threat no longer.

Sorry, BRAH, cops do this all the time.


141 posted on 07/22/2015 10:27:05 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/us/texas-sandra-bland-jail-death/

This report says that the DA is conducting the inquiry into Bland’s death as if it were a Murder!


142 posted on 07/22/2015 10:28:35 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: chris37

He can tell her to put it down, I said that before. He can also tell her not to smoke while he is talking to him. Sure. But if she sets a lit cigarette onto the ashtray, he can’t then tell her to put it out. Her putting it out has nothing to do with the performance of a traffic stop.


143 posted on 07/22/2015 10:28:43 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: TXDuke
"but can interfere with his duties so he has the authority to order her to put it out."

Yeah you keep claiming such but so far you offer no proof. The deadly weapon claim is funny BTW.

And apparently the people in charge of this officer ain't buying it either because he has been pulled from street duty.

144 posted on 07/22/2015 10:29:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: TXDuke

Right... I know nothing of the law.

Still waiting for a link to a case where a police officer telling someone to put out a cigarette was upheld by the court.

Your asserted that earlier, waiting to see evidence.


145 posted on 07/22/2015 10:29:58 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Crim

A “dangerous” weapon.

Maybe you should lay off trying to read while you’re drunk.. LOL!


146 posted on 07/22/2015 10:30:49 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: TXDuke
Any order that doesn’t violate State or Federal law (i.e forced sex, sex for favors, etc) and doesn’t violate specified civil rights is assumed by the State to be lawful.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Okay, you're just a moron. You obviously won't even try to use reason, so it's over.

147 posted on 07/22/2015 10:31:31 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Since cig smoke is commonly used to mask MJ then yes, smoking can interfere with his duty to detect drug usage. Also, it can be used to burn the cop so for officer safety he can order it out.

Again, as shown in the statutes provided, any order that does not directly contradict state/federal law or civil rights is deemed a lawful order according to State law. If you don’t like the law then change it, but otherwise you must follow the law.


148 posted on 07/22/2015 10:32:38 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I provided 4 statutes already. You’ve provided nothing that states it is not a lawful order.


149 posted on 07/22/2015 10:33:36 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: vette6387

So you are saying that the DA has a conclusion looking for an investigation?


150 posted on 07/22/2015 10:33:39 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yes, he can, and you have no idea what you are talking about, and a lit cigarette can be used as a dangerous weapon.


151 posted on 07/22/2015 10:35:27 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Mad Dawgg

He violated the courtesy policy which is why he is on desk duty. He didn’t violate any law.

Can you not read??? I already provided 4 statutes showing he had the authority to give the lawful order and she was required to follow that lawful order.

Please provide ANY evidence that states that this was not a lawful order. So far you’ve provide nada.


152 posted on 07/22/2015 10:35:40 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: Mad Dawgg

Gee, good manners and proper respect for legitimate authority is so square. Embrace the mayhem, civilization is overrated!!


153 posted on 07/22/2015 10:35:48 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Dude, I’ve provide you the 4 statutes that provide the facts. You don’t even want to read them nor do any research on your own. You’re apparently the total moron because you know nothing of the law, but you keep making claims that are clearly disputed by the laws provided.


154 posted on 07/22/2015 10:37:33 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: TXDuke
"Cars are on a public roadway so ‘privacy of the home’ laws do not apply."

The only exception is searches a probable cause. Which neither apply in this case.

155 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

She had a really bad attitude. Evidently, she may have had an arrest record. They mentioned a record, but didn’t say what it was for.

People act like the policeman killed her. She could have taken him to court if he didn’t follow procedure, but she chose to kill herself. Also interesting she spent 3 days in jail. Wouldn’t anyone in her family help pay her bond?


156 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:40 AM PDT by FR_addict (Boehner needs to go!)
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To: TXDuke

Let me guess, you’re not a Texan, you’re not a cop, and you’re not an attorney. Your only exposure to the law is watching Judge Judy and as an armchair know-it-all. You’re clearly not qualified for this debate.


157 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:56 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: Mad Dawgg

You are correct about searches.


158 posted on 07/22/2015 10:40:23 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: FR_addict
"but she chose to kill herself."

Interesting if that is so why are they investigating it as a murder?

Strange...

159 posted on 07/22/2015 10:43:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: TXDuke
Oh you did go for the cigarette as a weapon thing too...

*sigh*

"What the hell is the world commin to?...give me a smoke Junior"

160 posted on 07/22/2015 10:44:47 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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