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Did airlines allegedly price-gouge after Amtrak crash? [Team Obama Red Herring]
See BS "News" ^ | 7/23/15 | Kate Gibson

Posted on 07/24/2015 8:08:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx on Friday said the government is investigating whether four airlines engaged in price gouging after a deadly Amtrak crash in Philadelphia in May disrupted rail service in the Northeast.

The Transportation Department sent letters on Friday to Delta, American, Southwest and JetBlue requesting information.

Prices on round-trip airline tickets between major cities such as New York City and Washington, D.C., skyrocketed in the wake of the deadly Amtrak derailment, which closed a major stretch of rail line and disrupted travel in one of....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamanomics; travel
More evidence Team Obama is our kakistocracy.

For those who don't know: a basic law of economics is that when their is HIGH demand for a service and a LOW supply of that service, prices will rise.

The service of transportation was trimmed back when the engineer chose to speed around the tracks and crash the train. Ergo, the airlines saw an INCREASED demand for their services.

Pretty simple explanation.

1 posted on 07/24/2015 8:08:10 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Actually, they have computer programs that raise the prices automatically when there’s more demand for a route.


2 posted on 07/24/2015 8:12:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: SoFloFreeper

Speaking of the Amtrak crash, anyone heard an update on the investigation? I had the impression initially that the engineer hit the gas instead of the brakes going into the turn, but I haven’t seen any update on the story in quite some time.


3 posted on 07/24/2015 8:12:47 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: SoFloFreeper

The ENTIRE Air Line “Industry” has been out of control for a long time. They NEVER should have been “De-Regulated”!


4 posted on 07/24/2015 8:18:26 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think they did, so why isn’t the Department of Transportation on top of it? Oh yeah....I forgot....they are getting to much money paid to them UNDER the table to keep their mouth shut....that should work...


5 posted on 07/24/2015 8:19:59 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
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To: livius

I think that fits with my explanation above. :)


6 posted on 07/24/2015 8:20:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

The term “gouging” reflects a statist policy preference. Standing in a queue is a common activity in a welfare state, perhaps one of the leading uses of time.

Statists think it’s virtuous for plebes to stand in line to wait for their rations.

They would rather everyone have to stand in line or experience shortages, than the 1%, or plebes with a consumption preference, to get access to services or good because of their willingness and ability to pay.


7 posted on 07/24/2015 8:22:19 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: livius

that’s what I thought, that computer programming, not decisions by actual human beings, caused prices to rise.

Question — Is there any case against airlines for price gouging if human beings didn’t make decisions to do this? Can the Justice Department sue the software?? Not to be too flippant, but there is variable pricing nowadays on so many products, and computer software will make the call as to where prices should be to maximize revenue. Will management which approves of this software find themselves sued? Will such software be outlawed somehow?


8 posted on 07/24/2015 8:23:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: US Navy Vet

I think the problem is that government policies and regulations discourage the industry from growing. Instead, like health insurance, companies are buying companies and the pool of competitors is shrinking.

If the government’s regulatory apparatus were dismantled and there was an environment that encouraged small startup airlines to be created, things would be better for the consumer.


9 posted on 07/24/2015 8:23:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

By giving Amtrak a monopoly on passenger train travel, isn’t the government itself guilty of price fixing.


10 posted on 07/24/2015 8:24:34 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: SoFloFreeper

Beating up EEEEEEVIL Corporations in the name of The Little Guy is going to be a cornerstone of the 2016 Dem campaign.


11 posted on 07/24/2015 8:25:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: US Navy Vet

You can’t mean that.

Why should the FAA set the number of carriers that can fly into or out of a particular airport, versus leaving this issue to the market?

In inflation adjusted terms, prices are much lower than they were prior to deregulation, perhaps a 75-80% discount from their pre-deregulation prices.


12 posted on 07/24/2015 8:26:09 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh boy. i suppose I should look out for a federal probe. I price gouge all the time. When one of my customers comes in and needs a part made over night or next day I charge double my hourly rate.


13 posted on 07/24/2015 8:31:48 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: sportutegrl
By giving Amtrak a monopoly on passenger train travel, isn’t the government itself guilty of price fixing.

It is extremely expensive to comply with the regulations of Title 49 CFR Part 238, but there IS one private concern that leapt through all the hoops of the FRA back in 2011 to show that private enterprise CAN do this, and compete directly with Amtrak (being able to bid one state contracts to run certain routes that Amtrak can't do effectively), and maybe, just maybe even make money.

The thing is the cost of compliance is so absolutely ridiculously high, that it almost is not worth it... everything degrades into some sort of Crony Capitalism... everyone puts their hand out looking to get taxpayer funding in some form because the money is "free".

14 posted on 07/24/2015 8:43:08 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: trad_anglican
"Speaking of the Amtrak crash, anyone heard an update on the investigation?"

That was my question when I saw the thread headline. Looks like it's been buried. The engineer's a homo isn't he?

15 posted on 07/24/2015 8:46:40 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They’ve gotta get with the Uber language on this—they had “surge” pricing.


16 posted on 07/24/2015 9:02:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: trad_anglican

“Speaking of the Amtrak crash, anyone heard an update on the investigation?”

The Gay Engineer, is a member of a Democrat-protected class, so this has already been dropped into the fires of the memory hole.


17 posted on 07/24/2015 9:13:56 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: US Navy Vet

Actually, FEDGOV has made it so costly and burdensome to start any airline operation, especially to smaller cities, that it has created the current environment.

Go back to pre Clinton mid-90’s “Airline Reform” rules, and watch aviation “take off” again.

As it stands now, it is unprofitable to even think about flying anything with less than 150 seats, nearly full every trip.


18 posted on 07/24/2015 9:17:35 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t know. I think the whole airline pricing strategy should be revised, personally.

Do you pay a different price to ride the bus at a certain time of day? Take the subway? And on top of that, not know what the price will be?

In my opinion, they should simply offer prices. Some will be higher (for quality - for example, I’d pay more for a Delta flight because they’ve always treated me better than the other lines) but the price should simply be what it is.


19 posted on 07/25/2015 12:31:12 PM PDT by livius
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