Posted on 07/25/2015 11:26:01 AM PDT by Wolfie
Thank you for the complement. I have been in medicine for over 30 years now and treated people with all kinds of illnesses from the ICU to the office. If that makes me a quack I’m proud to be one
In 30 years I have had one or two patients that their nausea was better controlled with marinol (the true medical form of THC) - not a very high percentage. In those cases I had no problem using the drug, but unfortunately it doesn’t make you high, so your crowd has no interest
And BTW google cyclic vomiting syndrome. MJ causes far more vomiting than it alleviates. My point that you did not address in your rush to call me a quack was that the medical marijuana movements are nothing but a thinly disguised move toward full legalization. But you know that.
Whats the problem?
The hit dog yelps?
I don't have to. I get it myself when supposedly self acclaimed learned people don't understand that their responses aren't welcome. I don't care what you think. Let that sink in. Go meditate on it. I know you think you're really really smart and people want to know what you think, but I don't.
I have no objections to drugs being used for medicinal purposes, but you and I both know that these cases make up a very small minority of all weed usage cases. The recreational drug users are trying to assert a need for medicinal purpose so they can normalize recreational uses for the drug.
"Medical Marijuana" is being used by dope heads to push drug legalization in the same manner that "Ryan White" was used by the homosexuals to push funding for AIDS research.
It's a dirty tactic, but they just don't care as long as they get what they want, and what they want is to get high without any legal consequences for doing so.
I'm also sorry that someone you loved had to go through cancer. It is a terrible disease and I fault no one for trying to ease their pain.
“He could grow a full years’ supply every year for about $25 in fertilizer and water.”
Therefore, the government will outlaw it.
The idea of smoking something for your health is laughable. I realize people could vape but I have never met a pothead who did anything but smoke it.
They make food with it but complain it is an expensive way to get high.
If people want to get high, it doesn’t bother me until they mess with me. My BIL and my brother both stay high 24x7. They drive high, they work high, they do everything while stoned. That has to be a sign of a problem.
I don’t disagree with that posting. I don’t care for the weed myself. But the same case could be made for alcohol and tobacco. It’s really about freedom for me. People make poor choices then they should have to suffer the consequences. I feel this is an insignificant issue when compared to rampant illegal immigration, astronomical deficit, an uncontrollable IRS and idiot career politicians.
No, but call it what it is, just another pain killer that is smoked (with all of the inherent health issues associated) vs. swallowed and maybe many opponents to MJ will become supporters.
I marvel at the number of 20 somethings who patronize the local “organic HEALTH solutions” stores around here...must be an epidemic of some kind that is mainly afflicting these youngsters.
If a loved one is dying of cancer (stage 4) and weight loss is killing them, I don't think the health issues of the smoke is very troublesome. It's more of an anti-nausea medicine than pain reliever. I don't care for it personally and beer on a hot day is on my dwindling list of vices.
No, I understand that and I’m quite empathetic/sympathetic to such instances.
I have witnessed what cancer can do and harbor no reservations about people using whatever is at their disposal to relieve such suffering.
I know a lot of pot heads, and they aren't much good for anything. They all get government checks and lay around all day smoking weed. They cost us money, so to that degree I consider them as messing with me.
What is worse is the example they set to young people. Young people don't need any encouragement to go in this direction. From what i've read, weed smoking can cause permanent issues for brains still developing, which teenage brains are still doing.
And of course there is the issue of "gateway" addiction. Normalize weed, and suddenly cocaine doesn't seem so "out there." I've known a lot of crack and cocaine addicts, and so far all of them tell me they started with weed.
The real problem is the idea of “there is nothing wrong with being stoned all day”. If you drink all day, people say you have a problem. Why is being stoned all day acceptable? These are addicts, plain and simple.
Granted, we may all be doing it soon. It’s a great way to get to sleep if it works for you. My sister is a great source of info me. My BIL smokes cheap skunkweed which is a harsh high. She only smokes good quality weed which is mellow and helps you sleep. My brother smokes cheap weed too and he can’t sleep or function without it.
I think Tobacco is a curse, and I feel for people who have become addicted to it. However, I think it and alcohol have been around and accepted for so long that there is no reasonable way to do anything about it.
I just don't think acquiring a new, and potentially debilitating recreational drug is in the best interest of the Nation or anyone else for that matter. Used as medicine I have no issues, but used for fun is a dangerous principle, in my opinion.
I constantly point out that legalized drugs collapsed China, and my primary concern for legalized weed is that it will lead to a general legalization of all the other drugs.
The same philosophical argument supporting legalized weed works for all other drugs too.
I feel this is an insignificant issue when compared to rampant illegal immigration, astronomical deficit, an uncontrollable IRS and idiot career politicians.
Absolutely agree. The only reason I even wade into the topic of weed is because I have been arguing with this fellow for nearly 8 years about this topic, and I have developed a reflexive tendency to jump on it whenever it comes up.
But yes, on the list of things we ought to be worrying about, weed should be way way way down the list.
I have witnessed what cancer can do and harbor no reservations about people using whatever is at their disposal to relieve such suffering.
Concur.
-——I have been arguing with this fellow for nearly 8 years-——
Well, we have the hippie wannabe hillary clinton running for president and she is the poster child for the era
was the fellow mentioned one of those? in the Mr Spock logical world, there would be lots of aging hippies seeking retirement nirvana where SS can buy cheap weed
Trouble is, they don't know they will become addicts when they first start. That is why it is so insidious. There are people who can handle it without major problems, and there are people who simply cannot, and nobody knows how to tell which is which before the fact.
Granted, we may all be doing it soon. It’s a great way to get to sleep if it works for you. My sister is a great source of info me. My BIL smokes cheap skunkweed which is a harsh high. She only smokes good quality weed which is mellow and helps you sleep. My brother smokes cheap weed too and he can’t sleep or function without it.
I would presume his bio chemistry has adapted to it, and now his body regards it as a normal part of it's endocrinal system. Same thing happens with long term alcoholics. There body notices that alcohol inhibits nerve signal transmissions and so the body responds by boosting the nerve impulses to compensate.
When the Alcohol leaves the system, these strengthened nerve impulses create the effect we know as "the shakes." I've read that people have died from sudden alcohol withdrawal.
Probably not as big of a problem for Marijuana users though.
Sort of. He came of age during the 1960s and so weed was a big part of his life. He claims to have suffered a lot of physical abuse from his father, and drugs was one of his means of coping.
He is competent at his trade, but he has lost at least one lucrative job because he wouldn't submit to a drug test. He is currently unemployed last I heard from him, and survives on social security.
Very smart man, but *obsessed* in an irrational manner regarding the legalization of drugs. Will not shut up about it. Turns every conversation into another discussion about drugs. And I mean every conversation.
I've gotten to where I just ignore anything he writes.
How is an investemnt banker, using pot as medicine to relieve debilitating back pain, akin to a 60s hippie reliving his youth?
That’s like you taking Advil for achy muscles so as to relive your days as a bank robbing heroin addict.
Does not compute.
Pot is not an opiate or opioid.
Not even close.
New study has shown that the component in pot that gives folks a feeling of relaxation is called Linalool. Yes, the exact same Linalool that occurs in Lavender and gives it relaxing properties.
I demand that the gov’t make Lavender illegal immediately, if only for the chirren.
That was my point. That people think medical pot is bad while the medical industry throws around opioids like they’re candy.
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