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U. of Cincinnati prepares for riots as bodycam video showing death of #SamuelDubose to be released..
Twitchy ^ | 7/29/15 | Twitchy staff

Posted on 07/29/2015 9:26:25 AM PDT by barmag25

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To: ctdonath2
I don’t see anyone actually justifying the shooting

If the poster I was responding to wasn't justifying the shooting, he came pretty darn close....

301 posted on 07/29/2015 2:38:24 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd

I could care less if the victim was black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever. His race has nothing to do with the officer’s unjustified, criminal shooting.


302 posted on 07/29/2015 2:39:41 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: ctdonath2

I don’t see anyone actually justifying the shooting...

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Hi there. I’m Responsibility2nd. And I think it was a justified shooting. So do many others. Scroll up.


303 posted on 07/29/2015 2:40:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Watch the pedestrian walk down the hill on the sidewalk passing the traffic stop. When the officer put a bullet through the drivers head, the vehicle rolled down the road uncontrolled, right where the pedestrian was walking. This could have ended much worse. This is a university, lots of walkers on foot.

They not only shot this guy to death for no reason, they then lied about it in an effort to coverup what actually occurred.


304 posted on 07/29/2015 2:43:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ctdonath2

I agree with your statement.

If the driver had not been so coy and evasive, mumbling nonsense while ignoring repeat commands to show his DL and trying to start the car, he wouldn’t have had the cop on full alert with his gun apparently drawn.

As to what the cop was supposed to do, I wound say perhaps shoot out a tire?


305 posted on 07/29/2015 2:45:50 PM PDT by Zman516 (Truth is the new hate speech -- Thought-Criminal #1)
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To: RKBA Democrat

It’s being reported they have another video. Likely from his partners body cam.

You have to remember, both cops lied on their reports, to create a legitimate motive for the shoot. Anything further from them can and will be totally impeached.


306 posted on 07/29/2015 2:47:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ctdonath2
Stopping at the up-close frames of the gin, looks to me like it was NOT sealed. There’s a shiny gap between the plastic top and the plastic collar that holds the top to the bottle until the seal is broken. That “shiny” usually isn’t visible until the seal is broken. An “open container” conviction carries a maximum penalty of a $150 fine.

For what it's worth (and I don't think it is really relevant to the ultimate issue of whether the shooting was justified), after another look at the video, you are 100% correct that the bottle had been opened. But the reason is even more simple than a gap between the cap and the seal. Here is a screenshot of the bottle:

And here is picture of a bottle of Barton Gin:

Notice anything?

Whatever was in that bottle, it wasn't gin (well, at least it wasn't Barton Gin).

307 posted on 07/29/2015 2:55:59 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: LaRueLaDue
That's not really how LE works. There are tens upon tens of thousands of fugitives roaming loose at any one time. They don't have the manpower to go get them somewhere later. That's why they check for warrants during traffic stops, and why fugitives flee when encountered.

More realistic to just get rid of all those silly minor traffic laws altogether. The only people you'll apprehend are the fools dumb enough to obey them.

308 posted on 07/29/2015 2:58:16 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Hi there. I’m Responsibility2nd. And I think it was a justified shooting. So do many others. Scroll up.

Right, right. As you noted earlier in the thread, you think it was a justified shooting because.....he put the car into gear. OK.

309 posted on 07/29/2015 3:01:46 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Whatever was in that bottle, it wasn't gin

It might have been urine.

310 posted on 07/29/2015 3:02:53 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So is your contention that the officer is being charged for no reason?

I heard the same argument concerning Michael Slager from a few freepers too....didnt make them right.


311 posted on 07/29/2015 4:19:31 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: barmag25

Pay the rioters $5000 each!


312 posted on 07/29/2015 4:23:58 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m Responsibility2nd. And I think it was a justified shooting. So do many others. Scroll up.

Anyone thinking this is simply wrong. In addition if it were a legitimate/justified shoot there would be no reason for the officers to falsify their reports/statements.

313 posted on 07/29/2015 4:26:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“Whatever was in that bottle, it wasn’t gin (well, at least it wasn’t Barton Gin). “

Yes, my coworkers were commenting on that being the first bottle of yellow gin they’d ever seen.


314 posted on 07/29/2015 4:33:03 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: barmag25

My call on this one: Driver starts car, puts car in gear. Cop reaches in to stop him. Driver maybe grabs cop’s hand/arm (hard to see for the convenient blur). Cop anticipates going for a 60mph drag and shoots.

I might be mistaken in my interpretation but I could see that going through a person’s mind in the split second one has to think about it.


315 posted on 07/29/2015 4:37:23 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Official Reparations Riot Theme Song
316 posted on 07/29/2015 4:40:38 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: dragnet2
There is only one reason or motive for these cops to lie on their own reports. Come on.

No, there are many reasons why a report may contain a falsehood. It could be a deliberate mistruth or a sincerely held misconception. The motivation could be to get away with a crime or simply make the truth easier on the deceased's family. Although as I explained earlier, I don't think there is sufficient evidence to conclude that Officer Tensing misrepresented anything in his report.

317 posted on 07/29/2015 4:41:59 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: dragnet2
No one is buying this. Certainly his own bosses, the DA, prosecutors who've viewed the reports and video 500x frame by frame, slow motion are not buying it.

In a city controlled predominately by Democrats and liberals, everyone you mentioned is likely more motivated by their own selfish political interests and the satisfaction of certain demographic electorates than in finding a fair and just resolution. The truth in a matter like this can only come out in fair and open trial.

Falsifying their own reports is now the least of their worries/charges.

That remains to be seen as well as whether there was actually any falsification at all.

Trust me here.

No one reading this thread has any reason to trust you based on what you have written here so far. Your rush to judgement and group-think mentality is bordering on libel. The real truth will eventually come out and it will almost certainly be far more than what is depicted in a short, jumbled, one-angle video. The interests of justice, order, and civil peace would all be better served if people waited for the judicial process to proceed rather than to spout off with a near endless stream of rash and presumptive conclusions.

318 posted on 07/29/2015 4:43:06 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Responsibility2nd
"A career criminal with over 60 arrests and you want to let him go."

Absolutly correct. Now this thug, who had determined that traffic offences deserve a shot in the head, chose the wrong summer to pop a mere civilian.

The sweet part is that the thugs aren't aware they are thugs, and have gotten away with being JBTs their whole life, since they were stealing lunch money in 3rd grade.
Now, with body cams, they are going to be all hurt and long faced about how everyone is picking on them, and no one understands that the Badge has been a license to kill for years. It's not fair! He's been doing BS reports, like he was taught by his superiors, since his first day. Why are they suddenly checking them for verity? It's got to be some liberal black thing.

Hot flash: There are hundreds of thousands of peaceful, conservative Old white Guys that still remember getting a BS traffic ticket from some leather gloved 'roided badge heavy Farkwad. And coughing up $150 bucks for a burned out license plate light. Does anyone really think we give a rat's ass if you go home at the end of shift? We check the papers, with hope, to see if you got a load of #4s in the forehead, when you stopped a van with Saltillo plates doing 56 in a 55.

Wake up, all you JBTs. Nobody loves you. No one even respects you. Keep strolling around with a SWAT tag on your black body armor, with bloused boots, skin head, wrist length black gloves.

We've noticed that no-knock, flashbang, machine pistol drug raids where the dog and kids get shot have dropped off, big time.

I wonder why?

319 posted on 07/29/2015 4:47:57 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
No one reading this thread has any reason to trust you based on what you have written here so far. Your rush to judgement and group-think mentality is bordering on libel.

What specific conclusion or judgement rush are you referring to?

They have the videos, they have the cops verbal statements and they have the cops signed reports. What rush to judgement?

Are there unknown facts or witnesses?

Will the officers not support or standby their own statements and reports which were completed after the event?

What rush to judgement?

320 posted on 07/29/2015 4:56:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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