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To: SkyPilot

Address the issue of soon and quickly and the difference in the message. It is NOT about Sproul.

Your emphasis on “when” indicates the need to be in control and have secret knowledge. We are very clearly not told when, that is not the message. But it makes us feel good to think we have that secret knowledge.

I walk away very quickly from those who emphasize WHEN.


59 posted on 08/02/2015 12:49:11 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Your emphasis on “when” indicates the need to be in control and have secret knowledge. We are very clearly not told when, that is not the message.

I disagree with you, and I rely on Scripture for my position.

First, God told us to be watchmen on the wall Isaiah 62:6, Ezekiel 33). Moreover, the Son of Man chastized those who refused to look at the signs of times (Matthew 16).

Secondly, have you never read 1 Thessalonians?

13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 - 18

Or, is this just drivel to you?

64 posted on 08/02/2015 1:19:09 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: PeterPrinciple; SkyPilot; Elsie

>>Your emphasis on “when” indicates the need to be in control and have secret knowledge. We are very clearly not told when, that is not the message.” <<

Nonsense!

There is no need for “secret knowledge!”

Yeshua carefully told his disciples exactly what day of the year he would return, and they understood well.

When he said “of that day and hour knows no man but the Father” he was directly telling every observant keeper of his feasts that he would return at Yom Teruah, the Feast of Trumpets, which is the only feast that is not known with exactitude well before it happens.

Believers know approximately when it will occur, but must WATCH for the new moon to show in the sky shortly after sunset.

That remains true today, even with our powerful computers, we must watch when that day nears to know for sure.

Yeshua never kept anything secret from his elect; it is the unbelievers to whom all is secret, even today.

Walk away if you wish, and experience the reality of Revelation 3:3.


78 posted on 08/02/2015 5:25:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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