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1 posted on 08/02/2015 7:15:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Let’s do Blacks first, Mexicans second , Then Arabs !! Then let white kids, who’s parents pay for it, go to hell?


2 posted on 08/02/2015 7:17:03 PM PDT by WENDLE (Make America great again.)
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Q: How does a college allow in minorities who are not as qualified as whites or asians and not leave a data trail?

A:


3 posted on 08/02/2015 7:19:09 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Of course, do away with anything that measures intelligence, effort during high school, skills in a learning environment, etc!

Obama wants to do away with them in adult life and the workplace (or the “welfare place”), so why not start early.


4 posted on 08/02/2015 7:19:38 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East ("We Must All Hang Together, or Assuredly We Will All Hang Separately" B. Franklin)
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Some people can’t hack it until the standards are lowered or done away with altogether.


5 posted on 08/02/2015 7:21:15 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Columbia and Harvard obviously did that with Dorkbama, and we all know how successful he is, so what’s the problem?


6 posted on 08/02/2015 7:21:21 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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These schools that want all this diversity better be careful what they wish for. They may end up regretting it.


7 posted on 08/02/2015 7:22:20 PM PDT by rbg81
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So basically, according to these brainiacs... Both IQ tests and SAT test are “cuturally biased” against minorities?

...
BAHAHAHAHAHA

right....

How about considering a different theory... like .... um... they are not as smart?

If there was a “cultural bias” in those tests it would show up when Asians take them!

8 posted on 08/02/2015 7:22:27 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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No they shouldn’t. There are already too many morons getting into college as it is.


9 posted on 08/02/2015 7:24:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans. - King Obonzo)
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Laurie Koehler, senior associate provost for enrollment management at GW, said in the university's news release that going test-optional "will broaden access for those high-achieving students who have historically been underrepresented at selective colleges and universities."

"High-achieving"?

Sez who?

Are skill at telling bold-faced lies and ability to spew double-speak without breaking a sweat a prerequisite for getting a job as a college administrator?

(Rhetorical question only - of course they are...)

10 posted on 08/02/2015 7:25:37 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Research has shown that standardized tests such as the SAT and ACT often put low-income and minority students at a disadvantage because the questions may unintentionally contain cultural biases.

So what questions are culturally biased? For a while the only solid example those opposed to the SAT regularly came up with was about a regatta.

12 posted on 08/02/2015 7:28:38 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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Let’s just pass out college diplomas to high school graduates and avoid 4 more years of useless indoctrination.

Then, the kids who really want to learn something can attend “institutions of higher learning” for a nominal fee. These institutions could instruct students on true workforce skills and true scientific knowledge.

This would save employers the trouble of trying to determine who are actually the qualified employees.


13 posted on 08/02/2015 7:29:14 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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Adopting a test-optional admissions policy can be a positive move for colleges that wish to expand educational opportunity to more diverse populations.

This is not an advantage to any institution. Smart students are an advantage. The SAT is by far the best way to identify them.

On the other hand, if you're trying to pull in students who will use up lots of administrative hours trying to keep these kids from failing, and you yearn to spend money on adjunct faculty who will teach "[Fill in the identity] Studies" courses you invent just for the dumber kids who can't handle the regular curriculum, then forget that SAT and go for it, baby.

You'll just have to get a lot of grant money from guilty corporations and tax money from Uncle Sam or your state to pay tuition for these kids who don't belong in college anyway—since besides not being that bright, most of them come from broken homes and therefore have no work habits or money either.

Just because this will result in a divided campus where some students work and succeed, while those incapable of college work hate them for it and do drugs, fight, and trash the buildings instead, shouldn't concern you at all. Is that clear?

16 posted on 08/02/2015 7:37:16 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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19 posted on 08/02/2015 8:24:15 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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This one really burns me as a stay at home mom that did EVERYTHING to raise my son to be a good person and a good student. He had a great ACT score (not SAT, which this story is about), which he worked hard to achieve.

He starts college this fall at a Big Ten University. It is a huge financial undertaking for all of us. Grrrr....


24 posted on 08/02/2015 10:07:03 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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No. They should emphasize testing more. If you never went to high school, and then took the GED, and then blew away the SAT, you should get a spot before the expensive prep school graduate who you outscored on the admission exam. IMHO.

Further, there should be ‘exit’ testing that is required for your degree, no matter where you get your education. If you went to an online ‘college’, but outscored someone graduating from an Ivy, that should be a legitimate point of comparison demonstrating that you know more than the Ivy graduate.

25 posted on 08/02/2015 10:18:19 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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The admissions game works until the classroom fills with cut-throat competitors aiming for medical school. The grossly unqualified will be scoring horribly low. It was common at UCSD to see the hard core competitors with score spreads form 93% to 100% while the people who don't belong are scoring 60% to 68% or worse. Two quarters of that kind of performance and you're out.

I had a neighbor who was always "teacher's pet" as we were growing up. He always had the best grades and was "loved" by the elementary school teachers. Much of that coddling disappeared as we entered junior high and high school. I graduated a year ahead as I was keenly interested in pursing medical school. My neighbor graduated a year later and started at UCSD as well. I had opted for the hard-ass academic Revelle College. He opted for "Third College". Soon, I saw him spending time playing pool and screwing off in one of the student lounges. He was gone in a single quarter. The next time I saw him, I was teaching classes at Southwestern College. He was taking basket weaving classes. Terrible to watch him crash and burn. He drives a school bus for living today.

27 posted on 08/02/2015 10:57:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Just one step on the path to "Open Admissions" with tons of remedial (esp., non-credit, but money making) courses.

Similar to the days of "Pass/Fail" which grew out of the times of "T-ball" and "no scores."

29 posted on 08/03/2015 2:00:52 AM PDT by jamaksin
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Our local college uses accuplacer. Determines whether you have the abilities to do college level work with a math and a English component.

non political

take at the school on the computer

immediate results.


30 posted on 08/03/2015 2:35:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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I had to take them, so *you* have to take them!


35 posted on 08/03/2015 3:56:13 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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Many years ago, in a much less politically correct era, I worked as a college admissions counselor at a selective college.

At the time, the best predictor of college success was your ACT or SAT score, which basically told us how smart you are.

The second most important predictor was your high school transcript. We looked at the courses taken and your grades. Students who took math, science and language courses were favored because we knew they were willing to challenge themselves and had at least some study skills.

Most reference letters were useless. The exceptions were from a handful of teachers and guidance counselors with whom we had a history and whose judgement we valued.

We liked well rounded students who participated in band, choir, sports and other activities. We also liked to see work experience. But that was not nearly enough to get you admitted by itself.


40 posted on 08/03/2015 5:46:04 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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