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Breaking: Senate cloture vote to defund Planned Parenthood fails
Twitter ^ | 08/03/2015 | Frank Thorp

Posted on 08/03/2015 3:03:53 PM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: CatherineofAragon

Agreed 100%!!! Pp was caught doing something not only evil but against federal law, and our leaders cant even vote to stop giving them our money let alone convict them. Lawless begets lawless..


61 posted on 08/03/2015 4:26:53 PM PDT by CygnusXI
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To: CygnusXI

Convict was the wrong word to use.. shut down via swat team as they would a gun hoarder maybe is more apt.


62 posted on 08/03/2015 4:28:57 PM PDT by CygnusXI
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To: CatherineofAragon

I don’t understand how people can gather around a tray full of mangled, ripped and torn parts of is a person, and proclaim out loud “It’s a baby”, and then try and sell these parts.

It is pure black evil as you say.

If we don’t stop this, I don’t see how we deserve to continue on. I really don’t.

If we cannot look at this and say this is Evil, then we do not deserve to have brains, because we don’t use them, or souls for that matter.

This is really depressing me. I can’t believe this is going to continue ;/


63 posted on 08/03/2015 4:29:10 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I remember from threads not long ago that the Shemitah cycle of 7 years ends in September. It has usually accompanied economic upheaval. Could it be that the wrath of God will be taking the form of the total economic collapse of the American system?

Knowing that He is sovereign and can do ANYTHING He so desires makes me shudder. And...He can do it, knowing that people who love Him and serve Him will be affected.


64 posted on 08/03/2015 4:39:59 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: chris37; CygnusXI

I used to pray for God to have mercy on this country, but I don’t anymore. I did try to do it recently, and I felt a strong compulsion to stop.

Maybe a message that the time for mercy has passed? If so, I don’t wonder why.

All we can do is hold to God and to what we know is right. But I know what you mean; seeing what’s happening around us is beyond difficult. It’s intolerable.


65 posted on 08/03/2015 4:49:09 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon

And you did the most wonderful thing about lives on earth but never reached a soul.

Doesn’t sound like faith, but pride. A distraction.

Without the faith being in place, you can save all the babies in the world and still go to hell... I know that sounds mean, but it is us being mean, not God.


66 posted on 08/03/2015 5:03:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

God may be trying to tell you: you are looking at the superficial. The mercy the country needs is not that even of saving babies’ earthly lives but that of saving souls from hell.


67 posted on 08/03/2015 5:04:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nascarnation

right and the only reason I bring it up is because it raises the obvious question — given it is not likely there will be a CWII then what do we do? I don’t really have an answer except a general sense that we must learn to adapt and survive as an occupied insurgency. I believe the idea of real conservatives running the United States is unlikely. The liberals and RINOs run the country and they are quite entrenched.

In an environment where conventional methods will likely fail (pushing for Cruz) someone like a Trump may be helpful even if he doesn’t win. Who knows ... he make some inroads where conventional candidates fail and expose liberals and RINOs for the POS they are


68 posted on 08/03/2015 5:07:52 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

There needs to be a spiritual battle royal.

Devils are holding souls hostage. People don’t tend to kill babies en masse out of the clear blue sky. That kind of numbing and subversion of love bespeaks a spiritual siege which has to be overcome.


69 posted on 08/03/2015 5:10:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“If we cannot get something like this to pass, God help us.”

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.
Thomas Jefferson

The party that said, “Give us the power and we’ll set things right!” couldn’t get seven votes against infanticide.


70 posted on 08/03/2015 5:23:54 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, thanks for being God’s interpreter for me. I was floundering without your counsel.


71 posted on 08/03/2015 5:28:20 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: tumblindice

The Democrats should change the name of their party.

How about: National Socialist Workers Party?

Fits ‘em like a glove....

America’s death spiral-dive has nearly reached terminal velocity. Won’t be long now...


72 posted on 08/03/2015 5:45:35 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: CatherineofAragon

It’s possible that we are beyond redemption.

I don’t see how it is possible to forgive what has been done, I just don’t see how.

But Jesus died for us. You know, he loves us, I don’t know why, but He does.

I don’t know how to stop this. Maybe it isn’t for us to stop, even though I would really like to think that there is a way, because it is intolerable as you say.

But, I tell you, even though I don’t know how to stop it, and even though maybe we have gone to far, I don’t what Him to hear silence when He should hear prayer.

Maybe a whole bunch of people don’t care, but I want Him to know that I care, so right now I am going to say the Lord’s Prayer out loud.


73 posted on 08/03/2015 6:00:31 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Seriously? It allows him to bring it up again. Reid did this all the time too.


74 posted on 08/03/2015 6:09:33 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw

yeah, but so what?

It will fail again.

Wanna stop funding, change the rules and nuke option it, otherwise dude is just screwing around as usual.


75 posted on 08/03/2015 6:55:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: GIdget2004

Those senators should be locked up in prison for financial crimes against the citizens of the republic.

THEY DID build this…enslaving us, our children and grandchildren…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

All assets should be seized.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder. - The Law; Bastiat

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game…

Rules for Changing a Limited Republican Government into an Unlimited Hereditary One…

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks…

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

Debates in the House of Representatives on the First Report on Public Credit 9–18 February 1790
James Jackson (Ga.)

But it is doubted with me whether a permanent funded debt is beneficial or not to any country.

The same effect must be produced that has taken place in other nations; it must either bring on a national bankruptcy or annihilate her existence as an independent empire. Hence I contend, sir, that a funding system, in this country, will be highly dangerous to the welfare of the republic; it may, for a moment, raise our credit and increase the circulation, by multiplying a new species of currency; but it must, in times afterward, settle upon our posterity a burthen which they can neither bear nor relieve themselves from. It will establish a precedent in America that may, and in all probability will, be pursued by the sovereign authority until it brings upon us that ruin which it has never failed to bring, or is inevitably bringing, upon all the nations of the earth who have had the temerity to make the experiment.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/875


76 posted on 08/03/2015 7:12:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: LS
You're not going to win anything with Boehner and McConnell. The only way to win is to oust them. The only way to oust them is to either replace their lieutenants in upcoming elections, or turn popular sentiment on this issue so strong that they must act.

Walking away from a cloture vote won't do that. This chain began with the claim that McConnell voted NO in order to be able to reconsider this vote later. I suggested that he might never reconsider the motion. You suggested that it was pointless to reconsider because Obama will veto it anyway. How is any of this winning the issue?

At least a forced vote that Obama vetos can be used to rally the public when new videos come out and more courts try to intervene. Take it to the court of public opinion. Keep it in front of the people by making the MSM report it because Congress is voting on it repeatedly.

-PJ

77 posted on 08/03/2015 8:35:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: GIdget2004

Show vote


78 posted on 08/03/2015 9:08:24 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Timber Rattler

Oops, clicked on the wrong poster—thank you.


79 posted on 08/04/2015 2:57:07 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Political Junkie Too
If indeed that was the strategy I would agree. But I doubt it is. I think as always (going back to the 1850s) the real strategy is to always bring the issue up quietly for votes that have no chance to succeed so they can run on "pro-life." PJ, don't you find it odd that after two elections and control of the senate and substantial public opinion they continue to dodge an up or down vote on Obamacare?

Have the videos substantially moved public opinion on abortion? I don't see it. Basically you managed to have one endangered Dem shift is vote and one endangered R shift his.

Honestly, if this were a meaningful vote don't you think we would have been closer to 50 or less?

80 posted on 08/04/2015 4:06:46 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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