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To: sukhoi-30mki
If you've read the parameters of the engagements, particularly the famous one with the USAF F-15s you can see how the results came out. My guess is that the Typhoons, like the F-15s were not allowed to use AMRAAMs or any type of BVR weapon, no AWACS, no jamming, and were probably outnumbered. If it was a real shooting war type of situation my guess is that half of the SU-30s would have been knocked out before the merge with the sections severely disrupted, to be picked off by the Typhoons. That's not saying the Typhoons wouldn't take some losses, but ti wouldn't be 12-0!
9 posted on 08/07/2015 7:01:42 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: aegiscg47

There were both BVR & WVR engagements. These supposed results were in the WVR engagements. The BVR engagements were supposedly closer though the word is that the Su30’s did very well even there. As for limitations put on Typhoon & them being outnumbered, the exercises were held in the U.K. & there were just 4 Su30MKI’s involved.


13 posted on 08/07/2015 8:58:31 AM PDT by cold start
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To: aegiscg47
Btw, the famous exercise with the F-15's that you refer to (Cope India 2004) was with a very early type of the Su30's which were then phased out. The fighter that reportedly gave the the F-15's the most problems (along with the Su30) in that exercise was an upgraded version of the Mig 21. Also in no exercise, whether with the US, the French or the British, have the Su30MKI's ever used their radar in anything other than the training mode.
14 posted on 08/07/2015 9:07:14 AM PDT by cold start
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