Hey Republicans, Maybe We Should Consider Electing Someone With Integrity

The Blaze ^ | August 7, 2015 | Matt Walsh

[Leep]

It way early in the cycle. Trump is ruffling feathers and that is a good thing.
What’s is Trumps opion on taxes? Is he for a tax code that has seven times as many words as the Bible?
I want to hear more, not less, from Trump.:)

[mongrel]

He’s not necessarily connected with the Clinton at the hip because of their ideology, it’s because it serves his purposes for self-promotion. He doesn’t have a deal with them because they’re buddies, but because he makes deals and plan B’s wherever he goes. Looking on the outside, a deal here makes perfect sense. Hillary is the biggest winner with his continued candidacy.

I don’t know who told you he was selflessly supporting Clinton, but that would be the first person that I’ve heard using selfless to describe him. If he supports Clinton, it’s because it benefits himself in some way.

[DoughtyOne]

He’s on my side? Right, because he’s put out a detailed platform on his positions? Because he’s made a lot of bluster and pronouncements that point in the right direction in the last few months? Most of them make no sense when you begin to engage with them practically. They just sound like great zingers.

You describe them as pointing in the right direction.  Then you say they make no sense.  Which is it?

Do they sound like zingers when you support those policies?  Evidently so, because you say they're pointed in the right direction.

Your bias is dripping off your post here.

Let's look at the points that make no sense to you.

1. Immigration. He’s building a wall with a really nice door. What’s his plan for that door?

He intends to build a wall and make sure people enter through an approved portal.  Isn't that what the law states should be done?  You don't support our current immigration laws?

2. Gay marriage. Officially against it when pressed for an answer as a candidate. Attended a gay wedding and found it to be fabulous.

Then officially he is against it.

3. Abortion. “I’m very pro-choice.” “I’m pro-life with caveats for incest or rape of the mother.”

Well calling for a shut-down of the government until funding for Planned Parenthood is stopped, probably doesn't appeal to you.

4. “Hillary Clinton is a really good woman and she does a really good job. And I like her.” “Hillary Clinton was the worst secretary of state in the history of the United States.”

He also said she would make a terrible presdient.  You probably disagree with that too.

Have you ever said something superficial at a social setting in New York?

5. Health Care. “I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care.” He says he’s against Obamacare, but what’s he going to replace it with?

You would know if you had listened to any of his videos.  He has addressed this serveal times recently.  You don't want to know, so you haven't listened.  It's obvous on a number of topics.

So which side of his mouth am I supposed to trust? He needs to BE fragged.

Okay let's play that game.

Senator Cruz has said, I want to cut down on illegal immigration to protect U. S. Citizen's jobs.  / I do want to significantly increase H1-B visas (to destroy U. S. Citizen's jobs).

Senator Cruz said he did not agree with the new fast track path for the president for trade negotiaiton. / Cruz voted for support legislation to do just that.

Isn't this fun.

[Leep]

Edit and addition.

It is way early in the cycle. Trump is ruffling feathers and that is a good thing.
What is Trump’s opinion on taxes?

Is he for a tax code that has seven times as many words as the Bible?

What does he think about “I”bama efforts at bringing us all together “as one America”?

Trump could open up a lot of important debate.
He could make “average folks” consider things they may not have ever thought of. And, he could force the RINO dynasty to take a stand on positions they somehow never seem to have to take a position on.

I want to hear more, not less, from Trump.:)

[DoughtyOne]

If he supports Clinton, it’s because it benefits himself in some way.

I agree with you. So is he a Leftist due to his connection to them?

No. It has no bearing on his political ideology.

[mongrel]

I think his value is in ruffling feathers, and he’s done well at that to this point.

At the same time, it doesn’t matter how much detail he gives about policy. He’s shown a clear ability to change it on a whim.

At what point will his staying in derail another conservative candidate and give it to Jeb? You can be sure the GOPe will coalesce around him to be the anti-Trump. If a conservative candidate gets the GOP nomination, will Trump go third party? If you say no, what assures you he wouldn’t?

The longer he stays, the more his ego gets fed and the less likely he is to pull out. He’s better than Jeb and better than Hillary, but that’s not saying much. He’ll be willing to destroy a lot of conservative allies if it serves his purpose.

[OddLane]

You make a very good point.

I've seen this done in more subtle ways as well.

The media, which makes it a point to exclude any legitimate criticism of open borders policies in any forum, will occasionally air a grievance from the most ignorant, louche or uniformed quarter.

A great example is an anti-cheap labor 1 minute segment PRI Marketplace aired about a year ago in response to a typical COC-style pro-immigration segment.

Naturally, they chose a woman who, albeit well-intentioned, had no command of the facts and came across as a bumptious hayseed.

[Iscool]

Except that, in the case of Trump, all available evidence indicates that he's not even a Republican, much less a conservative. He has, however, been in bed with the Clintons for decades. Suddenly, he decides to step out of the shadows and into the GOP nomination race with illegal immigration as his signature issue, after years of abject silence on the matter. When he does that, thousands of GOP primary voters line up behind this guy, dividing the vote of the party, all to the complete benefit of Hitlery Clinton, his political client was of long standing.

I quit the GOPe ages ago...I don't care what Party Trump belongs to...He is more conservative AND pro America than any of the GOPe contenders up there (except Cruz)

[mongrel]

So, you’re saying Trump hasn’t shown a propensity for being all over the map with his political views? And that we should just take him at his word because he really, really means it this time? I’ve already stated I like a lot of what he says, depending on which side of his mouth he’s speaking. My calling him out on his duplicity doesn’t mean I disagree with his conservative statements.

I’m absolutely biased against Trump. Because he has shown nothing in his life that demonstrates trustworthiness.

Yes, as far as I can tell, Cruz screwed up on the trade thing. But I will give a man the benefit of the doubt if he shows me a lifetime of consistent and tireless work on the same side of the aisle. I won’t do that for someone who just demonstrates an ability to flip-flop hard.

[Leep]

He can acted like a lightening rod while bringing up the issues that should be adressed.

I believe Trump appeals to the voter’s who truly feel they are outside of the process. As well as the voter’s who tried to get the opposite of Obama but were snookered by the, so called,uni-party.

Trump, at least in most people’s lifetime, is like no other Presidential candidate. He plays my his on set of rules. He has a little bit of a crooked moral. You call me a name i call you a name kind of thing. Forget that he is a moderate democrat, at best, he is exposing the phonies.

Look at Cruz. Unshaken and classy. He is only rattling the overly sensitive establishment type’s cage like Megs or Erik or nearly all of Fox News.
We think the rule are the USC but these egomaniacal media folk’s think they know better . They think they call the shots. They tell us what to think and who we should vote for.
Certainly not a Ted Cruz. We know who we are suppose to pick.
COme on Mongrel tell us who they want us to pick?...you know...we all know.

[DoughtyOne]

How about the H1-B visa thing.

These have happened over the last few months.

You’re pretty selective in your outrage over people who lie to you.

[Just mythoughts]

Hillry will chew old Jeb up and spew him out... Probably invoke Terri's memory. Stupid people!

[Milton Miteybad]

Then maybe they'll see Trump as a guy who has had to sit down and address issues he didn't have time to address before.

The reason he didn't have time, it would appear, is that his political ally of long-standing, Hitlery Clintoon, didn't really need his help until now. Now that she does need help in dividing the GOP base in order to be elected president, The Donald suddenly has the time to formulate some positions on issues that he couldn't have cared less about before, but which have always been important to conservative American taxpayers.

And maybe they'll like what they hear.

Yeah...I'm pretty sure that Hitlery is counting on that. This gambit by Clinton and Trump just wouldn't work otherwise.

[mongrel]

You quote Cruz as saying he supports ending illegal immigration because they take jobs. He didn’t give that as his reason. He is clearly against illegal immigration because it is illegal, and for increasing opportunities for skilled immigrants. I agree with him. There’s no integrity issue here although you may disagree with his stance.

So again, he has a clear, consistent track record, and Trump is the drunk uncle with a shotgun that happened to hit a few of your favorite targets. Good luck with that.

[DoughtyOne]

He said they compete with U. S. Citizens for jobs.

If you can’t deal with that, it’s not my problem.

[JimRed]

Pardon me for thinking that the Clintons have found a way to make this look easy. Theirs is an almost "can't lose" strategy at this point.

And the only way Hillary will be indicted, tried, convicted and imprisoned for her crimes is under a conservative administration.

[mongrel]

I would love to see that quote. I’ve looked all over for it and can’t find it.

[DoughtyOne]

Well then keep looking.

He said it around the time he advocated for bringing in more H1-B visa people.

[DoughtyOne]

I looked for it too, and out of tens of speeches and policy statements, he doesn’t mention jobs, U. S. workers, or illegal immigrants once together.

How do you do that? Ted found a way.

Obviously very concerned about the impact 30 million people would have on the jobs situation...

[mongrel]

Well, this is helpful. /s

You say Cruz is not consistent by referencing two things he said, so apparently he is the same as Trump. Then you make up a quote about him to prove your point. You won’t find that quote because he didn’t say it.

Cruz has consistently been on point in supporting H1-B visas because he believes it will increase American jobs. He has consistently been on point in opposing illegal immigration because it’s illegal. There’s no lack of integrity there.