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No, Donald Trump is not a “true conservative”
Hotair ^ | 08/08/2015 | Taylor Millard

Posted on 08/09/2015 5:09:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

About 12 hours after the first prime-time GOP debate a message from a group called True Conservatives PAC showed up in my email with the title “you’re a useful idiot.” The beginning of the email is listed below.

defendthedonald

It’s obvious Trump has struck a chord with people who are apoplectic at the GOP Establishment and for good reason. But people should stop to ask whether Trump is a conservative or if he’s using the crowded GOP field to promote himself. There’s also the entire “Trump is a Democrat plant” theory rolling around, which may or may not be true. But let’s take a look at some of the stances he took during the first prime-time debate.

Trump was asked by Bret Baier why he supported single-payer in 2000. Here’s his answer.

As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state…Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…— yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can’t take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system.

Here’s the problem: the single-payer systems in Scotland and Canada aren’t working. The Fraser Institute did a study on wait times in Canada, which found people waited a LONG time to see a specialist after seeing a general practitioner (emphasis mine).

Waiting for treatment has become a defining characteristic of Canadian Healthcare…Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 18.2 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment. This wait time is 96% longer than in 1993 when it was just 9.3 weeks. There is a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. Ontario reports the shortest total wait (14.1 weeks), while New Brunswick reports the longest (37.3 weeks).

As far as Scotland is concerned, Avik Roy at Forbes writes why that single-payer system isn’t working “incredibly well,” especially for cancer patients.

If you’re diagnosed with breast cancer in the U.S., you have an 84 percent chance of living for five years. In Scotland, it’s 71 percent. If you have colon cancer in the U.S., you have about a 60 percent chance of surviving five years. In Scotland, it’s 46 percent. If you have prostate cancer in the U.S., you have a 92 percent chance of living five years; in Scotland, it’s 48 percent.

Sounds fantastic right? It’s true Trump talked about getting rid of state lines for insurance companies, which isn’t a bad idea. But he also talked about taking care of those who can’t afford it. This suggests a government-run system of some kind, whether it’s Medicaid or single-payer or Obamacare. The U.S. already has a single-payer system: it’s called the VA system. How’s THAT going? If Trump was a “conservative” he’d be more interested in letting people buy whatever insurance they wanted without a government mandate. Or trying to figure out how to get it back to doctors prescribing their own prices without worry about the insurance companies at all.

Trump also admitted to buying and selling politicians.

TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give.
And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.

Baier: So what did you get?

TRUMP: And that’s a broken system.

Baier: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?

TRUMP: Well, I’ll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn’t know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world.

Note he didn’t say what he got from Nancy Pelosi. This is a fundamental problem. Trump can rail all he wants about the broken system (and it is broken). But talking about it and participating in it are two different things. And Trump is admitting to participating in it. Here’s the other thing about buying and selling politicians. It doesn’t have to involve political donations at all. Amity Shlaes wrote in her biography on Calvin Coolidge how people wanted to use their presidential connections to gain influence.

Even old friends could not resist exploiting the advantage of knowing a president. After he joined the Congregational Church in Washington, his family minister, Kenneth Welles, at the Edwards Church, could not conceal his glee at the power derived from being able to claim a president in the fold. In a letter to the president, Welles got specific on the power Coolidge’s step would give him to get support from the congregants: “It is going to give me a grip on some men like Gred Garrar and Judge Field which I never otherwise would have that.”

And that’s from a minister! Anyone remember the Ohio Gang involving Coolidge’s predecessor, Warren G. Harding? These were people who were friends of Harding who became political leaders. Trump has already talked about putting friends in charge of the VA system. Who’s to say he’s not going to do the same thing as Harding? Trump has used political connections to seize houses through eminent domain, including one from an elderly widow in Atlantic City. Since she wouldn’t sell, he used the New Jersey government to seize it. The government got tax dollars in return. Favor for favor.

Get past his rhetoric on illegal immigration. From a political standpoint, do we really want a president who thinks single-payer would have worked and admits to buying and selling politicians? Remember, Obama promised reform too, and then went out and rewarded his friends. Trump isn’t a conservative and to paint him as one is ridiculous. There’s a ton of anger out there and all Trump is doing is tapping into it by pretending to be a populist. But there’s a big difference between channeling anger into actually trying to solve the problem (and being very direct with it) and just giving in to rage. Trump is hoping people will just stay angry all the way to the White House (if he’s really serious about this run at all) so he can put in big government solutions and hand out favors. That’s not what a “true conservative” is. Those claiming otherwise just need to stop.


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To: DoughtyOne

For goodness sakes - outside of being a loud mouth - tell me ONE positive thing about Trump and his policies.

How will he fix the economy?

What will his foreign policy be?

Who would be his Supreme Court picks?

What will he do about Planned Parenthood?

If you think BO is thin skinned, what about Trump? He’s as thin skinned as they come and squeals like a stuck pig.

I think those of you supporting Trump are blind fools - too deaf to even sing LA LA LA

It’s impossible to debate someone who’s so caught up in a cult of personality they no longer see reality.

Go ahead - drink your kool aid, puff your chest and express your love for Trump. And be prepared to pay for the consequences of your actions if we ever end up with as president

Me - I like Cruz or Walker - the adult candidates


141 posted on 08/10/2015 11:22:47 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: Starstruck

“Trump does like them young”

Who doesn’t?


142 posted on 08/10/2015 2:26:21 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: KosmicKitty

” tell me ONE positive thing about Trump and his policies.”

He’s making all of our enemies sh*t their pants. For now, that is sufficient.
In case you hadn’t noticed, the campaign doesn’t start for 13 months.


143 posted on 08/10/2015 2:30:04 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Jim Noble

Can you please provide the sources that back-up your statement?


144 posted on 08/10/2015 4:34:22 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: KosmicKitty
For goodness sakes - outside of being a loud mouth - tell me ONE positive thing about Trump and his policies.

If I really cared what you think, I'd take you by the hand and lead you around YouTube and help you.  I'm really sorry you don't have the tools to know how to watch Trumps presentations and learn this for yourself.  That's life I guess.

How will he fix the economy?  He has covered that.  You didn't know.  That's okay.

What will his foreign policy be?  He talked about our military, how it should be used and what needs to take place concerning our military.  You didn't know this either.  He doesn't like the Iran Nuclear agreement.  Guess you didn't hear about this eather.  You're really a well-spring of information aren't you..

Who would be his Supreme Court picks?  How about you telling telling us who all the other candidates pick since you think this is such a vital question.  To my knowledge non of them have name anyone yet.  It's not the time to do it  You don't know this either.

What will he do about Planned Parenthood?  He told the Senate to close down the government until it's funding was ended  I gues you don't even read this forum.  This was all over it last week.

If you think BO is thin skinned, what about Trump? He’s as thin skinned as they come and squeals like a stuck pig.  Aw yes, oh to be in the second grade again.  We spent eight years with a president in 2001-2009 who didn't make hardly a peep when people took him to task.  How did that work out for us?  Trump won't let people do that to him.  Good.  Finally a man who'll stand up for himself.  Suits me just fine..

I think those of you supporting Trump are blind fools - too deaf to even sing LA LA LA  Gosh you're so clever and original.  "I now you are, but what am I?"  Thanks PeeWee.

It’s impossible to debate someone who’s so caught up in a cult of personality they no longer see reality.  I know.  That's why you anti-Trump cultists are having such a hard time.  You don't know the first thing about him.  You call him names.  You insult his supporters.  You flaunt your ignorance for all to see.  You poor thing.

Go ahead - drink your kool aid, puff your chest and express your love for Trump. And be prepared to pay for the consequences of your actions if we ever end up with as president.

I would explain things to you, if it would make any difference.  These are complex issues, and you haven't shown even the slightest interent in learning on your own.  You obviously don't have the tools necessary for there to be a basis for beginnig a discussion.

You don't know anything about Trump.  You don't know that other candidates haven't done what you demand of him.  You don't watch his speeches.  You don't listen to his interveiws?  If you did, you wouldn't be asking some of these questions..

Me - I like Cruz or Walker - the adult candidates
.

Oh how that hurts.  How are your adults doing in the polls?

Trump is at the adult table.  Where are they?  Oh that's right..., they're eating with the rest of the pack while he dines alone in first place by a wide margin.

Every is stupid but you.  LOL


145 posted on 08/11/2015 12:00:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If the fetus at one minute old is not alive, what is it?)
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