Posted on 08/12/2015 5:42:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
As if to prove theres always a way to screw up a good idea, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz is now pushing what he labels Kates Law, which is named for crime victim Kathryn Steinle and would amend federal law to impose a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for any undocumented immigrant caught re-entering our country. It comes at a time when Republicans and even Democrats such as California Sen. Dianne Feinstein agree something must be done to make sanctuary cities at least accountable for in-custody undocumented immigrants with serious criminal records.
But this isnt it.
Prison terms for immigrants with records of breaking felony laws who keep coming back after deportations are one thing. But even staunch Cruz allies such as ultraconservative Mike Lee a Utah Republican who has worked with Texas junior senator on a number of issues have serious reservations about throwing into the clink for several years someone with no criminal background who has been arrested for illegal re-entry when his or her only intent is doing grunt work in our fields, putting roofs on our homes or bussing tables at our restaurants.
In other words, jobs many Americans wont lower themselves to do.
We could suddenly end up paying to prosecute and imprison poor, low-skilled immigrants from Mexico or elsewhere in Central America who have not the know-how or resources to take advantage of our legal immigration laws. Is this more of Cruzs American justice lengthy incarceration of those from neighboring countries who seek to escape their impoverished conditions, if only briefly, to eke out existences for the benefit of their families?
The House passed its own legislation before recessing. While it very correctly blocks federal funding to cities whose policies defy Department of Homeland Security detainment orders for those immigrants with criminal histories or security concerns, it falters by turning local cops into immigration officers, which is not a citys responsibility and could lead to racial profiling.
All this reminds us again that, as U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio noted during last weeks GOP presidential debate, politicians are getting a lot of mileage from the immigration issue without doing anything intelligent about it: And let me tell you who never gets talked about in these debates. The people that call my office, who have been waiting for 15 years to come to the United States. And theyve paid their fees, and they hired a lawyer, and they cant get in. And theyre wondering, maybe they should come illegally. Good point, senator.
Holding over a hundred bikers in the clink is no answer for getting to the bottom of the Incident at Twin Peaks.
Just shut off any freebies they get here in U.S. No free health care, no housing, food, employment services, etc. If they want in here then they are on their own.
Back around ‘02 or ‘03 ICE raided a meat packing plant in Nebraska that was about 80% Mexican.
ICE took off so many workers the plant had to temporarily shut down.
The company put an ad in 2 or 3 local papers.
They ended up with over 4000 applications, from Americans, to fill roughly 600 openings.
It was a plant owned by a national company that had been complaining they couldn’t find Americans to fill their job openings.
After that raid they shut up.
They even quietly settled a federal lawsuit they had been fighting.
Amazing what enforcing existing laws can do.
So, I guess throwing murderers in jail is no answer to the murder dilemma?
Propaganda.
Send the illegals on a plane to Zimbabwe, and pay the Zims $2K for each one. If their country of origin wants them back, they can pay to fly them back.
Just send them back to Mexico. Why pay for “three hots and a cot.”
A bunch of the wacko’s from Austin must have moved up there.
Throwing them into jail is an Obama straw man. The arrested illegal immigrant would or should have the choice of going to jail OR returning home. If he/she returns illegally again the choice should be return home or be shot on the spot. ; ). (Kidding kind of)
Same thing happened where I live except the illegals were replaced with Samalians and Burmese.
We need Mexican prisons for them, not the country club ones we have for rehabilitating our serial murderers and rapists. Real prisons with nothing but pure hell inside. 5 years in our prisons for these people would be like a paid for vacation. Prisons should be for PUNISHMENT...we have turned them into a social reform experiments.
As for the employers, there is a long standing protocol regarding how many and which pieces of identification are required for hiring, which have to be furnished to the feds. There is also a protocol for the feds to audit employers but that costs money, so you need to increase the budget.
There-in lies the conflict. Many problems can be solved by spending more money, but you want them to spend less money-cut the budget.
If you want to solve the immigration problems by enforcement only, you are going to need to spend a lot more money on enforcing the border, interior, and workplace.
If you don't like Sanctuary Cities, flood them with ICE agents. You don't want to do that because it costs money and you want to push the cost off on the local taxpayers.
Make it impossible for them to return.
“Throwing illegals in clink for five years is no answer to immigration dilemma”
My main concern is that it’s too expensive.
“grunt work in our fields, putting roofs on our homes or bussing tables at our restaurants”
“I’ve done all three of those jobs at one time or another.”
Me too.
And then there are Americans who have their beds made for them, their pools cleaned, lawns mowed, butts wiped ...
I suspect they are the ones demanding fresh slaves from Mexico—like the Euros importing Turks, North African muzzies, etc., and now the worm has turned for them.
We’ve got our Somalians and MS-13, and it’s late but not too late for us.
Go Trump.
Enforcement costs would go up at first until Illegals get the message it’s for real and start self deporting. But any additional enforcement costs would be laughably minimal compared to the costs of allowing the status quo with more coming everyday.
E-Verify is a must, and landlords SHOULD be held accountable, particularly those that turn a blind eye to stash/safe houses.
We should charge Mexico, and any other country, for keeping their citizens incarcerated. Either by tax, tariff, reduction in foreign aid, etc.
I think we could turn them into soylent brown (not green) and feed it to the people on welfare that are illegals.
In that way, they would “eat their own” so to speak.
Better way to repatriate illegals.
Build the fence, 200 yard clear zone with mines and send the 101st and 10th Mountain to garrison it. Shoot every f*cking person that makes it over the fence and through the mine field. I suspect they would get the message.
Use them to in chain gang style to help build the Wall, then drop them on the other side when it is done.
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