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Are Trump's immigration views out of the mainstream? (Survey says No)
Washington Examiner ^ | 8/16/15 10:53 PM | BYRON YORK

Posted on 08/17/2015 5:59:35 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
Chris Christie spin about ‘the wall’ this morning, bad-mouthing the concept by saying people could go over, under, around, or through it.

Now, Chrispy doing that would be a sight to behold!

21 posted on 08/17/2015 6:15:54 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Democrat_media

So 43% of respondents chose the top 4 options (all “greatly increase” options”) while 56% chose the final 3 options (reduce options) and they say TRUMP is out of the mainstream?

The author even goes so far as to say the final option is the “most draconian”. I’d argue it’s the completely open borders that’s the most draconian to the American people of the options.


22 posted on 08/17/2015 6:17:23 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: xzins
I'm going to stop reading all of these ... "Is Trump ... " .... type of threads because all they provoke are the comments that agree with Trump

Maybe I'll just mark the sources and put them in my "provocateur" folder

23 posted on 08/17/2015 6:17:59 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: xzins

A Snickers bar and a bus ticket to Tijuana.


24 posted on 08/17/2015 6:19:07 AM PDT by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: xzins
Just heard top of the hour news. It agitates me increibly because they lie lie lie.

News: "Donald Trump plans to end birthright citizenship, which is enshrined in the US Constitution"

This is a lie. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." This could not be more obvious.

Illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US over and above arrest and deportation as an illegal alien. Being born on US soil of a person without jurisdiction does not confer citizenship.

This is exactly why the Constitution was written in plain language for the citizen to understand. This is also why laws are written in gobbledygook legalese that means whatever a lawyer decides.

25 posted on 08/17/2015 6:19:07 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Do you remember John Belushi in ‘Blues Brothers’ dancing in the church when he ‘saw the light’? Back flips, cart wheels, splits...even now when I think about it, I think “Belushi is sort of fat”.

It would be fun to see Christie merely ‘spin’.


26 posted on 08/17/2015 6:19:09 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ASA Vet

Sounds great! For a start...


27 posted on 08/17/2015 6:20:47 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: knarf

On the border issue, either agree with Trump...or be wrong. :>)


28 posted on 08/17/2015 6:21:32 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I'm going to stop reading all of these ... "Is Trump ... " .... type of threads because all they provoke are the comments that agree with Trump Maybe I'll just mark the sources and put them in my "provocateur" folder

Good idea. Then what?
29 posted on 08/17/2015 6:22:46 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: xzins

What is so hard about being honest by these people?!!


They have been paid enormous amounts of money to betray the citizens of this country and favor citizens of other countries who broke into our country.

Some dare call it TREASON.


30 posted on 08/17/2015 6:23:46 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Yes Americans and freepers understand that illegals are destroying the USA. And that's without most people even beginning to understand how immigrants legal and illegal vote for leftist causes moving the country to the left (bigger government etc.).

It's amazing. I tried explaining that to many on here (the Ann Coulter thesis of immigration Trumping all other issues) and I've only received a couple of agreements.Do people get this that democrats are importing voters that will turn the USA socialist?

31 posted on 08/17/2015 6:24:02 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade "trade in services" = mega more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: Resettozero

Blindly vote for him .... you ?


32 posted on 08/17/2015 6:24:56 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Some of these sclerotic media dinosaurs are starting to catch on slowly. York started out about as anti-Trump as Rich Lowry and George Will.


33 posted on 08/17/2015 6:24:56 AM PDT by quantumman (werea)
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To: xzins

If someone considers the politically correct narrative that the media and the left constantly spew to be mainstream, then yes, it is out of the mainstream.
For those that think politically correctness is bull shavacky and will eventually kill us all, then no, it is not out of the mainstream.


34 posted on 08/17/2015 6:25:41 AM PDT by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: TaxPayer2000
Exactly! There is noting Draconian about following existing law. Existing law calls for ALL the measures in the proposal sans a legislative removal of birthright citizenship. That already exists for children born here to legal diplomats, people actually here by invitation. It would certainly be easy to extend that to children born to a foreign interloper who illegally entered the country intent on establishing an illegitimate claim to American benefits.
35 posted on 08/17/2015 6:26:17 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Fai Mao

Carson is the perfect VP. His personality compliments either Ted Cruz or Donald Trump.


36 posted on 08/17/2015 6:27:32 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: xzins

He needs to increase his security. Takes guts to come out like he has.


37 posted on 08/17/2015 6:27:48 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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To: knarf

Don’t understand your question/comment.

Do you mean would I vote for DT were he the Republican Presidential nominee? I would consider doing so.


38 posted on 08/17/2015 6:28:14 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: xzins

Liberals have a way of getting people to abandon common sense and embrace absurd, costly, and damaging things. They are masters of manipulation. At last someone (Trump) is giving voice to common sense and the preservation of our way of life. Like him or not, he is performing an invaluable service by airing mainstream concerns.


39 posted on 08/17/2015 6:28:41 AM PDT by Starboard
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I agree with you completely the wall is both a practical necessity which is indispensable and a metaphor for a commitment and follow through to police the borders and the airports etc.

But absent from the Trump's report is a commitment to e-verify beyond just mentioning it -yes, I understand that there is a general provision elsewhere in the document which calls for the enforcement of laws but I am also informed that e-verify is voluntary under current law.

Along with birthright citizenship, the draw of employment must be eliminated if we are ever to get real control over the borders because the greatest draw is not, as Trump suggests, birthright citizenship but employment. As far as I can tell, there is no call to action in the Trump document to prosecute employers who hire illegals. That is a grave deficiency in an otherwise outstanding series of proposals.


40 posted on 08/17/2015 6:28:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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