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To: rightwingcrazy

I listened to Chris Christie spin about ‘the wall’ this morning, bad-mouthing the concept by saying people could go over, under, around, or through it. They know it has always been presented as complete with high tech monitoring, increased Border Patrol, etc.

They also know that ‘the wall’ is a metaphor for completely gaining control of access to this nation: visa control, port control, airport control, coastal control, and border control. What is so hard about being honest by these people?!!


12 posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:01 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

A straw man argument is a sure sign that they’ve lost the argument.


16 posted on 08/17/2015 6:09:47 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: xzins
Chris Christie spin about ‘the wall’ this morning, bad-mouthing the concept by saying people could go over, under, around, or through it.

Now, Chrispy doing that would be a sight to behold!

21 posted on 08/17/2015 6:15:54 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: xzins

What is so hard about being honest by these people?!!


They have been paid enormous amounts of money to betray the citizens of this country and favor citizens of other countries who broke into our country.

Some dare call it TREASON.


30 posted on 08/17/2015 6:23:46 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: xzins
I agree with you completely the wall is both a practical necessity which is indispensable and a metaphor for a commitment and follow through to police the borders and the airports etc.

But absent from the Trump's report is a commitment to e-verify beyond just mentioning it -yes, I understand that there is a general provision elsewhere in the document which calls for the enforcement of laws but I am also informed that e-verify is voluntary under current law.

Along with birthright citizenship, the draw of employment must be eliminated if we are ever to get real control over the borders because the greatest draw is not, as Trump suggests, birthright citizenship but employment. As far as I can tell, there is no call to action in the Trump document to prosecute employers who hire illegals. That is a grave deficiency in an otherwise outstanding series of proposals.


40 posted on 08/17/2015 6:28:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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