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Ted Cruz 2011: The Constitution protects birthright citizenship for illegals
HOTAIR.COM ^ | 20 AUGUST 2015 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 08/20/2015 4:20:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: sagar

Yes, pre-1960s American morality is important. Pre-1850s American morality is even more important. We’re not seeing enough American morality in recent immigrants and contemporary politics.


41 posted on 08/20/2015 6:18:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He’s right, BUT he wants a border fence first.


42 posted on 08/20/2015 6:39:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: familyop

“Yes, pre-1960s American morality is important. Pre-1850s American morality is even more important. We’re not seeing enough American morality in recent immigrants and contemporary politics.”

Pre-1850 “morality” had slave owners running half the country and a complete disregard for human dignity. So, I don’t particularly put them in the highest regard. In fact, they were the opposite of moral. Today, their “morality” would be treated as crime against humanity and rightfully so.

That being said, the rest of what you say is true in that recent immigrants are generally moochers. That is not much different from the “native”. After all, 55% of the people are parasites living off of rich peoples’ gubmint-forced generosity.


43 posted on 08/20/2015 7:21:21 PM PDT by sagar
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To: theymakemesick

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44 posted on 08/20/2015 7:44:04 PM PDT by BFAM
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To: cymbeline

does the citizenship of the baby’s parent(s) matter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EX37aeoyr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz65EruVCKI


45 posted on 08/20/2015 7:55:27 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: sagar
"Pre-1850 “morality” had slave owners running half the country and a complete disregard for human dignity. So, I don’t particularly put them in the highest regard. In fact, they were the opposite of moral. Today, their “morality” would be treated as crime against humanity and rightfully so."

Most of the slave owners of the South were more recent arrivals from Europe than those of the north. Slavery was nearly universal in the world before the 1700s (see peasants, commoners).

Here's one example of a slave owner in the north (what later became New York). The landowner's name was Abraham. He came to America in 1669. His slave learned well and tended one of Abraham's farms well. For two of the six years, the slave managed and worked the farm, while the landowner was back in Europe on business.

After six years, the slave was freed and given the farm that he'd managed so well. By the way, also contrary to feminist mythology, Abraham's daughter, Sarah, also owned land.

"That being said, the rest of what you say is true in that recent immigrants are generally moochers. That is not much different from the “native”. After all, 55% of the people are parasites living off of rich peoples’ gubmint-forced generosity."

It's hard to establish work, where big manufacturing has been shut down, and nearly every productive activity is effectively outlawed by zoning, planning, building laws and onerous fees and taxes.

Most of the recent immigrants and others who are now doing well, are receiving incomes directly or indirectly from big government spending. That will come to an end in the default process for lack of sustainable revenues from a large manufacturing base.

The problem of artificial scarcity will be solved by a much more distributed, less regulated manufacturing base with open source equipment designs. But first, the completion of the default process.


46 posted on 08/20/2015 8:02:14 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: sagar

Can’t hold federal office either.

Clearly they are not subject solely to US jurisdiction.


47 posted on 08/20/2015 10:01:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (When a gov't leads it's people down a path of destruction resistance is not only a right but a duty.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Really - Ted once supported ANCHOR BABY doctrine?
And if so, is Cruz not permitted to evolve?
48 posted on 08/21/2015 2:51:20 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Just shows that even the brightest and best can learn as they go. Those who like to complain instead of win will “be oh so disappointed” in Cruz and those who would rather win with a real conservative will take it in stride.


49 posted on 08/21/2015 3:49:16 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Birthright citizenship is lawful. You have to change the law to stop it.


50 posted on 08/23/2015 6:50:30 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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