Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan

Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Mark Whittington

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Ever since Donald Trump, the mercurial businessman, media personality, and presidential candidate, proposed his immigration policy, centering on the mass deportation of up to 11 million human beings, reaction among conservatives has been decidedly mixed. Ann Coulter, for whom illegal immigration is the alpha and the omega of public policy, exalted that Trump could perform abortions in the White House, and she would not care. But Charles Krauthammer, writing in the National Review on Thursday, and George Will, in his latest column published Saturday, provided reality checks.

Krauthammer wondered what the practical political effects would be of reenacting the Trail of Tears on a mass scale would be on the Republican Party, poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980. His answer is not very hopeful.

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Will, on the other hand, concentrates on how big government would have to grow to implement Trump’s plan.

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............. Even Ted Cruz, no slouch where it comes to illegal immigration, realizes that this would require a constitutional amendment, a dubious prospect at best.

The upshot is that there exist practical ways of dealing with illegal immigration that most people would not find abhorrent. These include securing the borders with a wall, cracking down on people who overstay their visas, eliminating the abuse of H1-B work visas where some companies are replacing American workers with cheaper foreign workers, and dealing with the illegals that are already here in some way that is not as obnoxious as mass deportation and not as craven as amnesty. Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permenant minority status.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

As Scott Walker has stated, "going forward" no amnesty, we seal the border (using all options), enforce the laws, remove the magnets (6 months - June 2011- into his 1st term Walker was the first and only governor to revoke instate tuition for illegals, secure jobs for American citizens [legal immigration must also be adjusted down], E-verify and then look at other options.

And this is about more than illegal immigration, it's about national security.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Naturally, no mention that George Will’s wife works for the Scott Walker campaign and that Charles Krauthammer is a life-long Democrat that worked for Jimmy Carter and was Walter “Fritz” Mondale’s speechwriter.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Good morning 2ndDivisionVet. If you go to the linked Will article it is the first line.

[Deagle]

I am very tired of the can’t do Republicans and looking forward to the can do Republicans even if that means throwing out most of our current crop of (say nothing and get along) idiots.

So...I say we can do what is necessary and just do it!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump and David Horowitz were also Democrats.

[2ndDivisionVet]

And Krauthammer?

[2ndDivisionVet]

And Lincoln was once a Whig and Washington was once a British military officer. But Dr. Krauthammer is STILL a Democrat, unlike the men you named.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

.....”Hendrik Hertzberg, a former colleague of Krauthammer’s at The New Republic during the 1980s, said that when the two first met in 1978, Krauthammer was “70 per cent Mondale liberal, 30 per cent ‘Scoop Jackson Democrat,’ that is, hard-line on Israel and relations with the Soviet Union;” while in the mid-1980s, he was still “50-50: fairly liberal on economic and social questions but a full-bore foreign-policy neoconservative.” Hertzberg now calls Krauthammer a “pretty solid 90-10 Republican.”.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer

How do you explain Trump’s politics (donations, vocal support, association) when vetted and viewed under the “magnifying glass?”

Republican (Before 1999)
Reform Party (1999–2001)
Democratic (2001–09)
Republican (2009–11)
Independent (2011–12)
Republican (2012–present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

We will deport them no matter what that sissy Scott Walker or George Will and the other freaks have to say about it.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

You always present such a cogent argument. /s

[2ndDivisionVet]

I don’t have to “explain” anything about Don Trump, I’m a Cruz man. I’m trying to pin down why you use the husband of a Walker operative and a died-in-the-wool Democrat to attack a Republican candidate.

[DoughtyOne]

...the Trail of Tears...

Seriously, these folks are flat out loosing touch with reality.

[hosepipe]

Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump and David Horowitz were also Democrats+

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WERE.. is the operative phrase...
the jury’s still out on TRUMP..

[SmokingJoe]

Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permanent minority status.

Where has this guy been the last 6 years? We've been there, done all that. What he describes is exactly what the GOPE and Barack Obama have been doing for the past 6 years. And it wasn't Donald Trump that caused it. It was caused by the GOPe pandering to the racist LaRaza extremists.

[Reno89519]

This is a lot of GOPe BS and Walker is part of it. The 14th amendment does not say anything about birthright citizenship applicable to what is occuring. More relevant is Congress’ exercised author to deny citizenship to newborns of diplomats etc. All Congress has to do is state that illegal aliens are not under our jurisdiction for purposes of citizenship, same as diplomats. There is discussion on this very point. Raising the 14th amendment is a losing argument and only reinforces amnesty. We do not need amnesty, we need deportation. And Walker is now repeating the pathetic position of Cruz say no to discussion of what to do with the illegals already here until the border is secure. That is bad answer and why Trump is better, he’s not playing coy and avoiding the issue. Walker needs to go back to Wisconsin and stay there. And note about Cruz that Trump NOW LEADS IN TEXAS over Cruz. How about that?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I posted an article that raises good questions; I put links in it; I expand on it with facts and links about Scott Walker’s positions (as he is the candidate I support).

Here is more on Will (who is not) as you have written, a “dyed in the wool Democrat.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

We all have disagreed, from time to time, over different policy positions held by the candidates/activists and the commentators/pundits on issues.

This is “enough is enough” learning process for everyone, as well as the country.

I don’t see them on the Left, while I do see Trump taking us over the unelectable cliff.

It’s good to rage but now it’s time to land on a workable solution.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Yes. Trump’s political loyalty has always been a moving target.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Quit intentionally obfuscating. I said Will was married to a Walker operative and Krauthammer was a life-long Democrat and you know it.

[jonrick46]

I was once a crap eating dog, if you believe in reincarnation. The problem is, there is no redemption for some DemonRATs. They doen’t even get off the hook with reincarnation by having a second life as a dog that eats crap! Poor doggies!

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

I do indeed, and you’ve let your devotion to Walker turn you mushy.