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1 posted on 08/23/2015 3:56:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Pollutico doing its part to send a message to Schmuckie to save the RAT party.


28 posted on 08/23/2015 4:51:30 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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...for the glory of communism?


31 posted on 08/23/2015 5:29:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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We must remember the lessons of Clintonian triangulation.

Schemer may be strident and angrily against this until the last moment, when he will suddenly see the light, or recognize some previously unspoken nuance, and thus come around to Obama’s way.

If this scenario comes to pass, make no mistake: There is no change on Schumer’s part, and no arm twisting from Obama. This was always the way it was meant to play out.

Then it will be ok for all Democrats to fall in line.

Not saying it’s going to happen this way, but be ready for it.


36 posted on 08/23/2015 7:19:16 PM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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Is it too late for the Senate to decide this deal IS a treaty and it reaches down and begins hearings on ratification?
37 posted on 08/23/2015 7:23:35 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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Some Senator needs to do the following. Cruz is the first I'd think of, but if chances for success would be greater with a non-presidential candidate then Cotton would be most appropriate to take the point. I may be off of the details, but I'm pretty sure something like this is possible with many fewer votes than the 2/3 Obama claims are needed to stop him:

1) Ask the chair to rule whether the agreement, and how Obama has presented it, fits the standards set forth in the Corker bill or is instead really a Treaty requiring 2/3 of Senators but none of the House.

2) If Biden holds the chair and rules "Corker, not Treaty" or if some GOPe holds it and is willing to so rule, then appeal that ruling to the Senate as a whole. If 51 vote the agreement is really a treaty (a 50-50 tie would be broken against us by Biden) then they should next move for an immediate vote on this Treaty and vote it down. At that point you have Obama saying its an executive agreement and the Senate saying its a treaty GIven that ratifying Treaties is purely a Senate power and that former Senator Dungheap (D-IAI) got then Chief Justice Renhquist to rule during Clinton's impeachment "trial" that the Senate was solely responsible for its own procedures we should be able to win, or at least long delay the dispute in the courts. Burn Obama's clock, not ours. The only question is whether enough enough RINOs and allegedly pro-Isreal Rats would go along to reach 51 votes. At worst it better delineates their true status, a Cruzian technique. At best the GOPe would recognize it as a way to let Corker save face, pretending the now excessively unpopular agreement was not what he'd envisioned originally.

39 posted on 08/23/2015 7:34:48 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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